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If this truck is that old, the dealer is already ineligable for his 3% holdback... but is also paying property taxes on the vehicle. I'd guess he'd let it go for invoice, but I doubt he'd go below as that would be a net loss for him. Then again, you never know. |
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I agree with both of you, stevek and stanford. Although my $19858 DID take the 3% holdback into account; invoice was about $20600. I'm far from in love with the truck; I'm holding out for a '98 that also has power everything (if one comes in so equipped), which I'm sure I could get for about the same price, not including rebates and my trade-in. And that sounds a LOT better than $26000 and up for an SUV, when I'll never use the back seat!  Will keep you all posted, as more '98s appear on the lots in my area....
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You'll also get a much better price in the future trading in a '98 or '99 rather than a '97. I think that most companies offer dealers holdback on vehicles that sell within 2-3 weeks only. |
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| Rocles, I agree with your post #7.. Suv's are a gross waste of money for most people that buy them. To me, a better use of money is an extended cab full size p/u with a hard torneau cover. With that combo you have room for 4 comfortable (5 if they really like each other) and a mamoth lockable trunk where things are truly hidden from view. Gas milage is about the same. Suv's are starting to take on the stigma of minivans.Everybody and his brother has one They are mostly 2 wheel drives now and most don't have limited slip axles. So they get stuck worse than fwd cars. Most of them on the road today are not "Sport Utility". They are very expensive tall station wagons with poor traction,rough ride, and poor gas milage. I agree that a real station wagon might be a better choice.(although I look better in a truck) kip | |
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"To me, a better use of money is an extended cab full size p/u with a hard tonneau cover." Wow! When I read that I went to the window to see if someone was standing in my driveway. Only kidding of course, but it's exactly what I did. And I've had a couple of SUVs that I had put about 150,000 miles on. But that was back in the '70s before they were called SUVs and when they were not as popular as they are now. I doubt if I'll ever have another one though. My F150 XLT cost me many thousands of dollars less than a Suburban would have (one of the ones I had before) and I'm convinced it's a better vehicle for me because of all the reasons the two of you stated. BTW, the number of passengers the F150 will seat is actually 6 rather than just 4 or 5, and I don't think I ever had more than that in the SUVs I drove. I don't want to get into the gas-mileage argument with anyone, but I know my new pickup gets 8-to-9 mpg better that the '78 Suburban ever did, and I suspect it does better than the new GM, Dodge or Ford SUVs of that size. |
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| actually, lwf, the new suburbans are getting twice as good mileage as they were in '78. | |
| I believe that. It was a real gas guzzler, but on the other hand it was a work vehicle provided by the company I worked for at the time to tow a 30-ft Argosy trailer that I lived in. But even when it wasn't towing, it usually got only 10-11 mpg, and for all the miles I drove it, it never did better than 13. But the company bought the gas too, so I didn't care. But I couln't forget about that when the time came for me to buy my own truck again. | |
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In one of the car mag. my son has around here they tested a Tahoe vs Expedition. I believe they were getting around 11 city-16 hwy..My Ram 5.9 gets 13-14 town 17-18 hwy., driving the speed limit, be it 55 or 70. A constant dose of 70 will pull it down to a consistant 17 mpg. In reality ,2 or 3 mpg wont make a difference of whether I make that next truck note, but my point,is there is approx $10,000 diff. in a large SUV and an full size extended cab p/u. equiped the same way. I drive about 10,000 miles per year (retired). If I can avg 15 mpg overall, city/hwy, thats 666 gal of gas per year. At that rate I can drive for 15 yrs. FREE! (10000 miles Div by 15 mpg = 666.6 gal per yr.... $10000 div by 666.6=15 yrs.) Thats not figuring interest paid either way. Gas here in Atlanta is 80-93 cents for regular in my area. I'm figuring that cost at $1.00 a gallon. Another hugh benefit to me is the 6.5 ft long covered trunk; that can keep things hidden forever. Not to mention the wet clothing, coolers of fish and anything else I don't want inside the passenger area. Besides all that...I just look better in a truck.Ha! kip |
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amadeus131 I have been looking at the S-10 4WD also and have found two 97's for the 21K. I talked to the dealer about them and they say that they have never been sold and that they were dealer vehicles for corporate people. One truck has less then 200 miles and the other has less then 400 miles, the dealer wouldn't budge on the price so I walked. For that price I could get a 98. |
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| That's interesting, hubcap. I actually test-drove the leftover '97 Sonoma since my last post in this topic. It drives really well, and after my test-drive there were only 53 miles on it! The only problem was that the 3rd door did indeed rattle slightly. I may consider this truck anyway if they can install remote keyless entry and a full-size spare, and if they will give me a fair wholesale value on my trade-in. I may also give GM a call and see if I can get the same $2000+ consumer incentive as if I bought a leftover '98. If so, this could become worth my while; but unless ALL these things happen, not really; especially if I find a similarly equipped '98. As you said, the '98 could be had for essentially the same price. Happy shopping! | |
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