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| 21K!!!!! the guy must be dreaming. I paid 24K for my K1500 Z71 with the silverado interior. | |
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Well, I neglected to mention that this truck is actually loaded: 4WD x-cab, auto trans, A/C, several other random things including "electronic shift transfer case" (?!), for MSRP of $23368. But still your point is well taken, stevek. I've calculated the dealer cost of this truck as $19858; I doubt it's really "worth" even that much anymore. I suspect this dealer is going to be buying this truck a second birthday cake.  -- By the way, what IS an "electronic shift transfer case"? Do I want one?! |
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It is push button on the dash, instead of a stick on the floor to get inot 4WD. Just more things that can go wrong. The dealer cost you calculated is NOT what the dealer paid for it. Unless you "fell in love" with this truck, I would make a take it or leave it offer of no more than 19K. I have heard a lot of bad things about the new S10 trucks, I personaly have an '89 S10 Blazer with 175K+ on it and it can not be destroyed, still runs strongs and looks good. |
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If this truck is that old, the dealer is already ineligable for his 3% holdback... but is also paying property taxes on the vehicle. I'd guess he'd let it go for invoice, but I doubt he'd go below as that would be a net loss for him. Then again, you never know. |
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I agree with both of you, stevek and stanford. Although my $19858 DID take the 3% holdback into account; invoice was about $20600. I'm far from in love with the truck; I'm holding out for a '98 that also has power everything (if one comes in so equipped), which I'm sure I could get for about the same price, not including rebates and my trade-in. And that sounds a LOT better than $26000 and up for an SUV, when I'll never use the back seat! Will keep you all posted, as more '98s appear on the lots in my area....
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You'll also get a much better price in the future trading in a '98 or '99 rather than a '97. I think that most companies offer dealers holdback on vehicles that sell within 2-3 weeks only. |
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| Rocles, I agree with your post #7.. Suv's are a gross waste of money for most people that buy them. To me, a better use of money is an extended cab full size p/u with a hard torneau cover. With that combo you have room for 4 comfortable (5 if they really like each other) and a mamoth lockable trunk where things are truly hidden from view. Gas milage is about the same. Suv's are starting to take on the stigma of minivans.Everybody and his brother has one They are mostly 2 wheel drives now and most don't have limited slip axles. So they get stuck worse than fwd cars. Most of them on the road today are not "Sport Utility". They are very expensive tall station wagons with poor traction,rough ride, and poor gas milage. I agree that a real station wagon might be a better choice.(although I look better in a truck) kip | |
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"To me, a better use of money is an extended cab full size p/u with a hard tonneau cover." Wow! When I read that I went to the window to see if someone was standing in my driveway. Only kidding of course, but it's exactly what I did. And I've had a couple of SUVs that I had put about 150,000 miles on. But that was back in the '70s before they were called SUVs and when they were not as popular as they are now. I doubt if I'll ever have another one though. My F150 XLT cost me many thousands of dollars less than a Suburban would have (one of the ones I had before) and I'm convinced it's a better vehicle for me because of all the reasons the two of you stated. BTW, the number of passengers the F150 will seat is actually 6 rather than just 4 or 5, and I don't think I ever had more than that in the SUVs I drove. I don't want to get into the gas-mileage argument with anyone, but I know my new pickup gets 8-to-9 mpg better that the '78 Suburban ever did, and I suspect it does better than the new GM, Dodge or Ford SUVs of that size. |
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| actually, lwf, the new suburbans are getting twice as good mileage as they were in '78. | |
| I believe that. It was a real gas guzzler, but on the other hand it was a work vehicle provided by the company I worked for at the time to tow a 30-ft Argosy trailer that I lived in. But even when it wasn't towing, it usually got only 10-11 mpg, and for all the miles I drove it, it never did better than 13. But the company bought the gas too, so I didn't care. But I couln't forget about that when the time came for me to buy my own truck again. | |
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