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larrwd: I have a brand new 4-door ranger. No rattles at all (nothing like the problems with GM's third door. I've gone over railroad tracks, curbs, pot holes, etc. and never heard as much as a ping. Ford did a great job! |
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| Hi everyone! I've been "shopping" (by which I mean fantasizing) for months now planning to trade in my '97 Sunfire, currently with 35600 miles, for a used '97 Jimmy or Blazer with fewer miles. My rationale is that I wanted the following: 1) Larger size, greater "road presence" (but I'm not exactly looking for a Hummer or even a Suburban); 2) 4-wheel drive (long snowy winter); 3) More power; 4) More cargo space, as I've just moved to upstate NY and will be moving again in a year. I'm a single guy with no children. Then I found that I could have a loaded S-10 or Sonoma 4x4 extended cab BRAND NEW for about the same price, maybe even less. And I realized that I haven't used even the back seat in my SUNFIRE half a dozen times since the middle of 1997, two or three of which were, ironically, clumsily carrying big things like a mattress and a desk (please don't ask how; suffice it to say miracles do happen). I'm glad I didn't buy the Jimmy, because I think I was into the wrong vehicle! I stopped by a lot that still had some S-10s on it (sadly no V6's), and I think I actually could like this vehicle. Only problem is there are a gazillion skillion options, and I'm worried I'll have to order a '99, since my chances of finding a leftover '98 with all the options I want (power everything, remote keyless) look unfavorable compared to those of the proverbial snowball. Please, anyone, am I on the right track? What the heck will I do with all these options? Third door really rattly? Will I probably have to order a '99 as I said? Any chance of working such a deal from invoice, as is discussed so often here? Two disclaimers: I'm committed to GM in spite of so much bad hype about them (I'm also typing from an Apple Powerbook, which says a lot about me); so with due respect to the people who swear by Ford (like my father did) or to imports (like some of my best friends), or IBM (tee hee), I'm committed to the S-10 or Sonoma if I should go this route. Also I have no desire to get anything larger than this size class, even though it looks like it could be had for much the same price (I found the same problem with Sunfire/Grand Am when I was shopping in late '96, and as you see I went for the smaller car). Thanks, and happy "trucking" to all of you! | |
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Addendum: Never mind about the S-10/Sonoma 3rd door rattle; I read the topic below about it. Sheesh. -- I stopped by a GMC dealer today, just to ask if they were getting more '98 Sonomas in, and when the '99s were coming in. He proceeded to try to sell me a leftover *'97*. This is not a misprint. They were asking $21000 for it, which is also not a misprint. Pleeeeeeease. It had the 3rd door on it; I mentioned that I'd heard from more than one source that it rattled. "Well, you can't believe everything you hear," he said. I respect salesmen, because I could never do what they do; but sometimes they're funny. 
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| 21K!!!!! the guy must be dreaming. I paid 24K for my K1500 Z71 with the silverado interior. | |
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Well, I neglected to mention that this truck is actually loaded: 4WD x-cab, auto trans, A/C, several other random things including "electronic shift transfer case" (?!), for MSRP of $23368. But still your point is well taken, stevek. I've calculated the dealer cost of this truck as $19858; I doubt it's really "worth" even that much anymore. I suspect this dealer is going to be buying this truck a second birthday cake. -- By the way, what IS an "electronic shift transfer case"? Do I want one?! |
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It is push button on the dash, instead of a stick on the floor to get inot 4WD. Just more things that can go wrong. The dealer cost you calculated is NOT what the dealer paid for it. Unless you "fell in love" with this truck, I would make a take it or leave it offer of no more than 19K. I have heard a lot of bad things about the new S10 trucks, I personaly have an '89 S10 Blazer with 175K+ on it and it can not be destroyed, still runs strongs and looks good. |
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If this truck is that old, the dealer is already ineligable for his 3% holdback... but is also paying property taxes on the vehicle. I'd guess he'd let it go for invoice, but I doubt he'd go below as that would be a net loss for him. Then again, you never know. |
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I agree with both of you, stevek and stanford. Although my $19858 DID take the 3% holdback into account; invoice was about $20600. I'm far from in love with the truck; I'm holding out for a '98 that also has power everything (if one comes in so equipped), which I'm sure I could get for about the same price, not including rebates and my trade-in. And that sounds a LOT better than $26000 and up for an SUV, when I'll never use the back seat! Will keep you all posted, as more '98s appear on the lots in my area....
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You'll also get a much better price in the future trading in a '98 or '99 rather than a '97. I think that most companies offer dealers holdback on vehicles that sell within 2-3 weeks only. |
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| Rocles, I agree with your post #7.. Suv's are a gross waste of money for most people that buy them. To me, a better use of money is an extended cab full size p/u with a hard torneau cover. With that combo you have room for 4 comfortable (5 if they really like each other) and a mamoth lockable trunk where things are truly hidden from view. Gas milage is about the same. Suv's are starting to take on the stigma of minivans.Everybody and his brother has one They are mostly 2 wheel drives now and most don't have limited slip axles. So they get stuck worse than fwd cars. Most of them on the road today are not "Sport Utility". They are very expensive tall station wagons with poor traction,rough ride, and poor gas milage. I agree that a real station wagon might be a better choice.(although I look better in a truck) kip | |
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