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83 messages, Last post on Sep 12, 1998 at 5:41 PM
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KC's my name, not my city  and yep, I have a 96 3500 Club 4x4.I'm a member of a national Dodge Ram "e-club" and we have quite a few dealers as members. All of them have mentioned the Club Cab is history, whatever stock will be built until it runs out, then the Ram extended cab will be Quad Cab only. Any dealer who won't give you info doesn't deserve your business, now or in the future. |
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michaell, A few years back, a friend of mine had a '94 F-250 super cab. His girls were 13 & 15 at the time. The girls were very well behaved. He had a camper on the F-250 and would tow a small fishing boat. After one camping trip he traded the truck for a non super cab model. The problem was the girls being normal teenagers and the chatter just six inches behind his head. He just couldn't take it! So where are you going to be in a few years. How long will you be able to put up with the chatter, literally in your left ear? |
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kcram, Is that an open list? I'd be real interested, especially as my 2500 is working great and I'd like to keep it that way. Don |
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Don very open list! send an e-mail to ramtruck-request  vcs.orgwith the subject subscribe and you're in. Be sure to read the rules and regs that will come in the subscribe reply letter, and be sure to check out the archives in http://www.vcs.org/ramtruck as your questions may have already been answered |
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OK, so a full sized extended cab might work, but there are some drawbacks. On a related note, I saw a commercial for GMC trucks recently. A lady is talking about the desire for a truck for towing, etc. versus the need for a family sedan (the kids shown were probably under 10). The ad promoted the GMC extended cab pickup as a compromise. I appreciate all the comments and responses. |
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Mike, You just saw the reason trucks are selling like toys at the holidays - they are being promoted as car replacements when they probably shouldn't be. Full size trucks are far from car replacements; they are heavy duty work vehicles that are worthless without a need for their capacity. It's like a single guy buying a 5 bedroom house. Yes, it's a place to live, but really unnecessary. Chevy is even trying to convince police departments to buy the 4 door Tahoe SUV since they don't make the Caprice anymore. This is FAR from a direct replacement vehicle. |
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"Full size trucks ........... are heavy duty work vehicles that are worthless without a need for their capacity." Boy, that sure sound like a narrow-minded viewpoint. I confess, my pickup is in that category about 99 percent of the time, maybe more. And I suspect that most other pickups are too. If every pickup owner had to prove the vehicle is being used only for heavy-duty work in order to continue owning it, I don't think this conference would exist because there wouldn't be very many pickups in this country. |
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lwf, A little narrow minded, maybe, but think about 20 years ago when almost EVERY pickup was used for work. What did you have then? Rugged slabs of steel, big block V8s, drivetrains with some teeth. Were there only a few? Heck no, Ford sold 500-700K of them back in the seventies too. What do you have now? Trucks trying to replace cars, according to the ad Mike saw. I'm not saying I don't appreciate a comfortable seat and a few niceties, but don't market them as "cars" when they're not. Think about all the complaints you hear when people trade in their mid-size family car for a pickup or SUV - BAD fuel economy, rough ride, the high climb to get in, tight back seats. People are buying trucks today with the impression they are comparable vehicles to what they're getting out of. You don't have to prove a truck's worth to anyone but yourself. If you know that you haul or tow regularly or if you off-road every weekend, yeah, you need a truck. But if you use the benefits of a truck only a handful of times in a year, then you probably could get the job done with a well-chosen car. |
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I think we had this discussion somewhere else. Why do people buy Corvettes? Nobody needs that kind of power. And how efficient is two seats? And where do you put your groceries? And who needs to blow that kind of money and gas? And why are they polluting the environment more than they need to? Obviously, all Corvette owners should drive Honda Civics. Less expensive, better mpg, plenty of power for every day needs, more cargo room, more passenger capacity, etc. And let's outlaw the big caddy's and towncars. Minivans and station wagons are more reasonable choices. It's just not a valid argument. Vehicle ownership goes far beyond actual needs. What do you feel most comfortable driving? What sacrifices are you willing to make to drive that vehicle? That is the vehicle you should buy. If it's a pickup you want, then it is a pickup you should buy. The more pickups that are bought, the more competion for consumers there will be and the more improved the product will be. A pickup truck is still a heck of a bargain when compared to SUVs, and a lot of other vehicles. |
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Good responses. I was a little hesitant at posting that last one thinking it might start an argument, but so far it didn't. But I'm a little defensive on this topic because I get a lot of this "why in the world do you own a pickup" stuff, and I don't consider mine to be worthless just because I don't need it as a work vehicle. Brutus' post said almost everything I might have, but his last sentence is especially on target. In addition, I don't consider pickups to be expensive to own and operate. I haven't had a major breakdown in the about 300,000 miles I've logged in my trucks, and the fuel economy of my current F150 is as good or better than that of all of the "full-sized" cars I owned up until the 70s. And the cars were always in need of front-end alignments as evidenced by tow-in/tow-out tire wear; whereas, my pickups have never needed them. Once upon a time one could do a little towing with a big car, and I did too, but after I tried doing it with a truck, I never gave a thought to a full-sized car again. Now it's academic, however, because there aren't any more full-sized cars that can be used for occasional towing. So if the big 3 are finally trying to convice the general public that a pickup might be a good alterntive to a car, all I can say is how come it took them 25 years to figure that one out? And then, of course, there's the topic of retaining value. I doubt if the guy down the street will keep his recently acquired, approximately $35,000-to-$40,000 Lexus for 10 years like I'll keep my $20,000 pickup, but if he does I have an idea I'll get a better resale price than he will. |
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