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#750 of 7485 finally someone to correct dmathews and eneth
by 4aodge
Dec 18, 2001 (10:19 pm)
Thank you hayneldan and carelton, for giving the other side of the story. The way eneth talks so negatively about Chrysler you would think Lee Iacoca (spelling?) had an affair with his mom when he was a teenager.
As I type this, millions of Chrysler minivans are being driven and started without any problems whatsoever. They aren't blowing up when the ignition is turned. Their passengers aren't being thrown out when they are hit from the side or back. Their transmission aren't blowing up. Their engines aren't dropping out of the cars on the freeway wile going 80mph. And they aren't exploding from gas leaks.
The bottom line...THEY ARE SAFE VEHICLES!
No one here has said Chrysler has had a perfect reliability history and has never had any problems. No one has said that. But when you make Chrysler sound like a company that builds cars to only kill their owners you are simply incorrect.
Chrysler made the minivan, and the auto industry for that matter, what it is today. All you Odyssey owners out there who love you vans so much should smile whenever you see a Chrysler minivan on the road. Why? Because whether you like it or not, if it wasnt for DC minivans your perfect Odysseys would not be around. Period. End of story.
-Adam
PROUND DRIVER OF A TROUBLE FREE 2000 CHRYSLER TOWN & COUNTRY LX
AND NO, IT HASN'T EXPLODED OR LEAKED FUEL IN THE 33K MILES THAT I HAVE HAD IT!
#751 of 7485 Safety!!! What a joke
by dchopp
Dec 18, 2001 (11:11 pm)
No matter what brand of minivan you own or intend to own, the bottom line is when you hit an 18 wheeler head on going 55mph, you are going to DIE.You can take your 4 or 5 star rating to the bank on that. My uncle was living proof of that.
DCH
#752 of 7485 you are going to DIE
by 4aodge
Dec 18, 2001 (11:33 pm)
I'm sorry about your uncle. You bring up a very excellent point.
Dec 19, 2001 (6:30 am)
The bottom line is you DC guys/gals are reaching out into left field finding anything at all to get the Odyssey folks goat. But since there is still right and center field we will return the favor by taking any tidbit of infor that goes against the DC group to get your goat. So if you can stand the pressure get out of the fire (pun intended). So as long as we are throwing out things do we say if it wasn't for GM using some of the first automatic transmissions DC wouldn't even have cars, or Henry Ford for the assembly line, we wouldn't have DC products. Like it was said above, DC didn't invent the minivan, they just lucked out and brought out a product at the right time, same as the Mustang, Corvette, S trucks, and a hundred others. I hope the new DC vans do have better quality than before as I would add them to the list of my next vehicle in a few years since I took them off my list after two bad DC cars.
#754 of 7485 Just came across this
by akin67
Dec 19, 2001 (12:17 pm)
The Favorite Cars of Comparison Shoppers: November 2001
December 17, 2001 8:05 AM EST
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Business Wire
PALO ALTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 17, 2001--InvoiceDealers, a pioneer in automotive Internet marketing, released the favorite cars, trucks, SUVs and minivans of online comparison shoppers in November 2001.
November 2001 Results:
The Ford F-Series extended its three-month streak as the Overall Most Requested Vehicle and two-year dominance in Trucks. Its recent overall popularity may have been buffeted by Ford's 0% interest financing campaign.
The Honda Accord edged out the Honda Civic as the favorite in Cars for the second consecutive month. The Chrysler PT Cruiser and Toyota Corolla returned to Cars after a one-month absence.
The Ford Explorer and Chevrolet Tahoe are establishing their dominance in the most volatile category, Sport Utility Vehicles. The two SUVs maintained first and second place respectively for the fourth consecutive month.
The Honda Odyssey ran away as the clear winner in Minivans for the fourth straight month. The Chrysler Town & Country finished second, its highest ranking ever.
Rank Vehicle Type Previous Rank November Score
Cars
1 Honda Accord 1 10.00
2 Honda Civic 2 8.17
3 Nissan Altima 4 7.80
4 Toyota Camry 3 6.71
5 Ford Mustang 5 4.15
6 Volkswagen Jetta 6 3.90
7 Volkswagen Passat 8 3.78
8 Toyota Corolla +10 2.69
9 Chrysler PT Cruiser +10 2.63
10 Nissan Maxima 9 2.42
Trucks
1 Ford F-Series 1 10.00
2 Chevrolet Silverado 2 6.31
3 Dodge Ram Pickup 3 4.91
4 GMC Sierra 4 2.81
5 Dodge Dakota 5 2.39
6 Toyota Tundra 10 1.89
7 Ford Frontier 6 1.85
8 Toyota Tacoma 9 1.69
9 Ford Ranger 7 1.58
10 Chevrolet S-10 8 1.15
Sport Utility Vehicles
1 Ford Explorer 1 10.00
2 Chevrolet Tahoe 2 8.88
3 Ford Expedition 5 5.57
4 Jeep Liberty 8 5.43
5 Chevrolet Suburban 4 5.32
6 Ford Escape 3 5.07
7 Nissan Xterra 9 4.79
8 Dodge Durango 10 4.23
9 Chevrolet Trailblazer 6 4.06
10 Jeep Grand Cherokee +10 3.92
Minivans
1 Honda Odyssey 1 10.00
2 Chrysler Town & Country 4 4.30
3 Dodge Caravan 3 3.62
4 Toyota Sienna 6 3.24
5 Dodge Grand Caravan 5 3.07
6 Ford Windstar 2 2.56
7 Chevrolet Venture 7 1.77
8 Chevrolet Astro 8 1.37
9 Nissan Quest 10 0.99
10 Mercury Villager +10 0.68
The list of Overall Most Requested Vehicles will be posted online (http://www.InvoiceDealers.com) in the Company Info Press Release section.
All registered trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
About the Study
The InvoiceDealers Popularity Index(SM) calculates each vehicle's popularity based on data derived from online shoppers who select cars on InvoiceDealers.com.
About InvoiceDealers and Dealix Corporation
Dealix Corporation is a data services provider focused on the automotive industry. Its principal unit, InvoiceDealers, provides the Gold Standard(TM) buyer referral product to automotive retailers, dealer groups, retail networks, and auto manufacturers nationwide. Founded in 1998, the company is privately held.
CONTACT: InvoiceDealers
Eli Kuo, 800/903-1965 ext. 154
edk
invoicedealers.com.
#755 of 7485 Comparison Shoppers
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Dec 19, 2001 (12:24 pm)
Guess we should compare that to our Most Researched on Edmunds.com. Odyssey is the most researched van here too it appears.
Thanks for the link akin67 (hopefully the copyright owner won't mind the post).
Steve
Host
SUVs, Vans and Aftermarket & Accessories Message Boards
#756 of 7485 dmathews3
by 4aodge
Dec 19, 2001 (2:26 pm)
"Like it was said above, DC didn't invent the minivan, they just lucked out and brought out a product at the right time"
you wish...
#757 of 7485 dmathews3
by 4aodge
Dec 19, 2001 (2:28 pm)
"So if you can stand the pressure get out of the fire (pun intended)"
I wonder what the families of all of the people who have died in car fires (including ones involving Honda Odysseys) would say to that? I doub't they would think thats cute and funny...
-Adam