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7485 messages,  Last post on Mar 23, 2008 at 7:43 AM

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What is this discussion about? Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van


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REMINDER!!! by KarenS HOST
Mar 19, 2008 (12:23 pm)
This discussion is a comparison for the two vans, nothing else. If it's going to turn into a my-van-is-better-and-yours-sucks festival, I think this topic is no longer viable.
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Re: REMINDER!!! [KarenS] by socalawd
Mar 19, 2008 (12:46 pm)

Replying to: KarenS (Mar 19, 2008 12:23 pm)

This discussion is a comparison for the two vans, nothing else. If it's going to turn into a my-van-is-better-and-yours-sucks festival, I think this topic is no longer viable.
 
Well I think the best thing to do is go drive each van. Figure out what one suits your needs and the go to the prices paid forum to see if you can afford the one you'd like. I really do like the Ody, but Bodge has finally got with the side airbag/ESC which I think is very important although CR says the stopping distance is still a problem. Buying something is all about what you can live with. Each person has different needs/wants, I try not to put everyone in the same box (Everyone needs are different) and tell people what issues they have with their cars(How would I know). I only know I had problem with Dodge in the past. Your results may vary.
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Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by socalawd
Mar 19, 2008 (12:49 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 19, 2008 3:07 am)

Without a doubt, this speaks volumes to what Honda thinks of Chrysler's new minivans, that they have to resort to massive discounting...... If what all you Honda folks claim, that everyone buys at invoice, then $4000 below that is what? $6000+ off MSRP????
 
Not really it speaks volumes to what our economy is doing.
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Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [socalawd] by dennisctc
Mar 19, 2008 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: socalawd (Mar 19, 2008 12:49 pm)


Not really it speaks volumes to what our economy is doing.

 
Check out sales of luxury cars etc....sales have increased, and the imports are doing pretty well too. It has to do with products. If Honda was dumping vehicles across the board, you'd be right on blaming the economy. They're heavily discounting the Pilots too, as a new redesign is on it's way. I think even Chrysler isn't discounting their minivans as much as Honda, based on Prices Paid for Odys!! And Honda's reporting profits, much of which is flowing back to Japan.
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Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by cheapdad000
Mar 19, 2008 (6:57 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 19, 2008 1:51 pm)

I think Honda/Chrysler/etc. are discounting to stem the flood of minivan purchasers migrating to Crossovers. Also, Pilot is tired design when compared to Outlook/Acadia/Enclave/Edge/CX7/CX9.
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Minivan purchasers migrating to Crossovers? by hansienna
Mar 20, 2008 (6:20 am)
Pay more get less. Perceived image more important than practicality.
 
My sister drives 2001 Ody EX. Her daughter has a loaded 2006 Pilot. The Ody has MORE interior space and can take 7 people in comfort while the Pilot can take 5 people in comfort + 3 small children with virtually NO cargo space behind 3rd row.
 
My sister lives in the first house they bought in 1969 ( 2nd owner) while her daughter is in the 3rd NEW house they purchased. Guess which one has no financial concerns?
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Re: Minivan purchasers migrating to Crossovers? [hansienna] by marig0107
Mar 20, 2008 (6:43 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Mar 20, 2008 6:20 am)

we are one of those that migrated to crossovers. We had a Caravan for 10 years. When it came time to replace it, I thought about the need for a minivan. But when everyone is in it, the cargo space is not great in the rear.
 
We needed some comfort in seating and cargo as well. With an oldest child driving, the only time all of us are in the vehicle are for church and for family trips. It just made more sense to do a crossover this time around. I have tons of cargo, I can even decide not to stack groceries up high when I do major load and kids are not with me by easily lowering the seats. I still do groceries quite comfortably.
 
And they all sit easily in the rear, one still in car seat, the other over 6 feet tall. Yes, I have every spectrum back there. lol It is rather fully loaded because we have dvd players in the rear headrests, but mostly I am thrilled that every one can sit comfortably and as our children get older, we don't have quite the same minivan needs.
 
I am impressed with the much better mileage as well. I am not so concerned about shuttling other kids around. Frankly, I have enough with my kids so my excuse is, got no room for yours. And I just really like not having the family truckster feel when I travel. it was good when the kids were smaller but now I am covering some greys and keeping some youth too
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I'm tired by hayneldan
Mar 20, 2008 (5:12 pm)
Of all these Odyssey and Toyota owners sniping at the people who happen to like The Chrysler/Dodge versions better than the ones they picked. It is the owners money and they should pick the van that appeals to them the most. For the records The new 08 minivan is 50 to 390 lbs lighter than a Honda(depending on model)has a longer wheelbase 122.2 vs 118 and has the same or better features that the Odyssey and a longer warranty to boot. To those who snipe at the stow and go seating, I am 6'4' and weigh 250 lbs, if you adjust the headrest and the angle of the stow and go even you too can be comfortable in the second seat.
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Re: I'm tired [hayneldan] by thegraduate
Mar 20, 2008 (5:26 pm)

Replying to: hayneldan (Mar 20, 2008 5:12 pm)

"I'm tired of all these Odyssey and Toyota owners sniping at the people who happen to like The Chrysler/Dodge versions better than the ones they picked."
 
It works both ways.
 
The host is here to step in if things get out of hand, that's their job (and KarenS is pretty good at it!).
 
To those who snipe at the stow and go seating, I am 6'4' and weigh 250 lbs, if you adjust the headrest and the angle of the stow and go even you too can be comfortable in the second
 
Um, no I can't (6'5" 195). Been there, tried that, in both the Swivel 'N' Go as well as Stow 'N' Go at the auto show. You're upset that people are telling you what to like, but that's exactly what you are doing. They offer unmatched flexibility, but lack comfort to MY BODY, especially compared to the large captains chairs in the Odyssey EX that I drove/rode in across the country twice. We aren't all made the same, and even though you're big, it doesn't mean that because you find the seats comfortable, we all will. I'm proof that that is not the case.
 
Take a little of your own advice - it is the owners money, they should pick the van that appeals to them most; no owner should tell others what is best, because best is relative. For owners wanting max flexibility, the DCX is great; for owners wanting the most carlike driving experience, the Odyssey is a fine choice, etc...
 
If we agree that everyone's benchmark for "best" is different, things will go by a lot smoother for us all.

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