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#7436 of 7485 I guess all the Odyssey owners flunked Econ 01 by hayneldan Mar 15, 2008 (8:59 pm)
Used car prices. Have any of you heard of the law of supply and demand? When there are twice as many Chrysler minivans on the used car lots as Odysseys because they sold twice as many Chrysler minivans?
#7437 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [socalawd] by dennisctc Mar 16, 2008 (2:44 am)
Replying to: socalawd (Mar 15, 2008 7:31 pm) I got 3 K off in spring of 05 and been very happy 40K miles of no real issues. You ever wonder why there are so many rebates that because it's priced too high for what people think they are worth. Maybe the MSRP should be lower??   Funny how this $3K never came up in any of your previous posts since 05? Amazingly, you just remembered this great deal of your's? I'm also glad you didn't experience any of the 5 or 6 recalls and quiet numerous service alerts Honda issued on the 05s!! You are truly blessed   I do wonder why Honda is now discounting like Dodge - up to $6000 on overpriced Touring models!! and what that says about the worth of Odys? I also get embarrasing offers, just recently from Honda due to my Sam's Club request..... Replies to this message: artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 6:39 am) hansienna (Mar 16, 2008 2:59 pm) artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 5:03 pm) and 3 more... dennisctc (Mar 17, 2008 7:14 am) sebring95 (Mar 17, 2008 8:33 am) and 2 more... socalawd (Mar 17, 2008 1:00 pm) dennisctc (Mar 18, 2008 4:58 am) socalawd (Mar 18, 2008 11:15 pm) and 8 more...
#7438 of 7485 Request for pics of grey interior of 2008 Town & Country by frostyy Mar 16, 2008 (5:42 am)
Could someone post pics of the grey interior (medium slate grey/light shale) of their 2008 town & country chrysler minivan?   I am shopping for a T&C right now and don't want the light cream color interior but I have yet to see one with the grey interior.   I think the Honda's are nice as well but too much money compared to the deal I can get on the T&C and the Honda only has features on its' top of the line van that I would want. Replies to this message: maryh3 (Mar 16, 2008 1:51 pm) tedebear (Mar 16, 2008 4:46 pm)
#7439 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by artgpo Mar 16, 2008 (6:34 am)
Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) "Dumping"? Is that like putting 60% of the output into rental and taxi fleets?   Call it what you will the Odyssey is still a far better vehicle than the DGC or T&C.   What would you call getting $10,000 off MSRP, which, incidentally, is totally irrelevant as any smart buyer knows you work off true invoice and not MSRP, is that not "dumping"?
#7440 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by artgpo Mar 16, 2008 (6:39 am)
Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 16, 2008 2:44 am) As Chrysler's #1 shill on here forever you suddenly have an interest in "dumped" Odysseys? Is it that you decided that you too should be driving a reliable value? What would your new screen name be, dennisodd? Just joking. Replies to this message: hansienna (Mar 16, 2008 2:59 pm) artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 5:03 pm) tedebear (Mar 16, 2008 6:01 pm) and 1 more... dennisctc (Mar 17, 2008 7:05 am) dennisctc (Mar 17, 2008 7:14 am) sebring95 (Mar 17, 2008 8:33 am) dennisctc (Mar 17, 2008 10:22 am) and 1 more...
#7441 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by sebring95 Mar 16, 2008 (8:55 am)
Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) Of course Chrysler has to be competitive now that Honda has started dumping their Odys with $3000-$4000 discounts. That can't be good for recent buyers who paid full sticker earlier last year.   I highly doubt anyone with a brain in their head has paid sticker on an Ody since maybe very early in the '05 model year. I bought mine April of '05 and paid $300 over invoice. I shopped a T&C equipped as close as my Ody EX-L R&N and there was about $5,000 difference out the door. The T&C was under invoice and included a rebate which I believe was around $3,500 at that time.   Using KBB private party values with the same vehicles today with 30k miles, it shows a $6,100 difference. So realistically they're not that far off in the scheme of things. I've lost the use of $5,000 in cash so there's obviously some disadvantage there. We liked the Ody better in both driving and features, so the cash wasn't taht big of a deal. But to say one or the other is significantly better in resale....I don't think it's that much. Replies to this message: bobber1 (Mar 16, 2008 10:00 am)
#7442 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [sebring95] by bobber1 Mar 16, 2008 (10:00 am)
Replying to: sebring95 (Mar 16, 2008 8:55 am) I just bought the van I liked. I didn't pay too much attention to the price or perceived resale value. I think people get way too wrapped up in that.
#7443 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [artgpo] by maryh3 Mar 16, 2008 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 2:28 pm) Go to a dealer and see if you can get the KBB for a trade in, especially in this market. Good luck to you.   IMO you can't get the CarMax or KBB values in the real world for any auto - Chryslers or Hondas included. If you really want to see what people are paying go to e-bay. Check on the "completed items". If you do I'll bet you find 05 T&C go for about $5K less than Oddys, which they probably paid for in the initial purchase. E-bay can be variable but you'll get the overall picture.   In the long run buy what you want and can afford and don't get too hung up on value. I liked the T&C because it is the smoothest van out there with all the toys my kids want. If all I wanted was value I would have bought one of the 07 T&C at invoice minus the $4500 rebate with the included the Lifetime Powertrain warranty. Those guys made out like bandits.
#7444 of 7485 Re: Request for pics of grey interior of 2008 Town & Country [frostyy] by maryh3 Mar 16, 2008 (1:51 pm)
Replying to: frostyy (Mar 16, 2008 5:42 am) Could someone post pics of the grey interior (medium slate grey/light shale) of their 2008 town & country chrysler minivan?    I am shopping for a T&C right now and don't want the light cream color interior but I have yet to see one with the grey interior.   I've complained about this too. I wish they offered black leather. However, I had to buy the medium slate and it definitely darker than the beige. The color is very close to what they show in the brochure for it but darker than what they show at their website when you "build your own".   I think a black leather would have looked best.
#7445 of 7485 Defend Odyssey at ANY cost...and lose credibility by hansienna Mar 16, 2008 (2:59 pm)
Replying to: artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 6:39 am) Interesting when one of the 2 "Defender's of the Odyssey Faith" would criticize a person who feels as positive about Chrysler as you do for the squished H.   Go read ALL the problems with the Odyssey Transmission in another forum. Honda has stolen the "MOST UNRELIABLE Transmission" title from Chrysler. Replies to this message: artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 5:03 pm) tedebear (Mar 16, 2008 6:01 pm) marig0107 (Mar 17, 2008 8:24 am) dennisctc (Mar 17, 2008 7:05 am)

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