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7485 messages, Last post on Mar 23, 2008 at 7:43 AM
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I am looking for advice. I have 2 kids(2 and 4), possible we will have a 3rd, use will probably be taking kids to school and 2 3000 mile road-trips a year. Our families live 1300 miles in each direction  . Hence my search for a minivan. I am between T&C Limited and Ody Touring no Pax There are some things I hate on both, I wish I could combine the 2 into 1. T&C Has no handles to grab while a front seat passenger - when DH will be driving, I tend to get carsick and I like having these on my 05 MDX (it makes me feel better to hang on). The only handle is WAY in front, for boarding I guess, and I learned on overnight test drive that it doesn't cut it for me. ODY - why do you cut off the leg room for front passenger? The lower glove box goes so low, neither of us can straighten our legs even when all the way back. DH is 6'4 and I'm 5'9. The stupid box hits us both in the shin. The leg room is there, but it is blocked. T&C - what were they thinking with the cheap, old style antenna? Even on the Limited. It is so distracting and hideous - I don't think I have had one on my car since the 90's! They take it out of their ad photos for a reason - it is ugly! ODY - Just a tray in the middle? No console. Is there one available as an add on? I use mine A LOT for storage! I really want one in my next car too. T&C - Lack of interior colors. I really prefer leather interior. The colors available are light and lighter. I cannot believe they don't have a dark gray type color for the interior in leather! Both - Is there a cargo net or container to keep things from flying around when 3rd row is folded? I don't want stuff rolling into the front. DH by far prefers the look of the T&C plus legroom is better for him. I don't particularly like either, but I guess I fall on the side of T&C for exterior appearance. My MDX was great but the lease is about to end and we want more room. I have a lot more trust for a honda product (mom has had 4 accords and I have had 2 acuras). Haven't driven a Chrysler product since an '88 Dodge Lancer that was so-so. I would probably get extended warranty on whichever I get, but I would prefer to stay out of the shop. Also - I've read resale is historically worse on T&C...Are purchase prices different? Sorry so long winded - any help or opinions are greatly appreciated. |
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Replying to: tnbchick (Mar 15, 2008 11:58 am) |
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Replying to: maryh3 (Mar 15, 2008 6:26 am) I really doubt there was $9,000 price difference. That would make the T&C about $18,500 new. Y'all tell some tall tales but even here in Texas that is a HUGE one. HA! The T&Cs flood the rental market hence no resale value. Check any Thrifty or Dollar lot. |
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Replying to: artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 2:28 pm) No, Sorry, True.....I had $5000 in rebates, end of year cash and dealer incentives, on top of an employee discount of about $3900. Throw in Honda dealer markup at the time, and outrageous $1200 tow package from Honda dealer.... easily $10,000!! I see in the Chrysler forum on here, people are helping others get EP pricing for total strangers who want to buy Chrysler. Last time I was at Chrysler dealer getting an oil change, I talked to a salesperson about an 08 and she was willing to give me EP price on top of $2000 rebates, without me even have to bother my Chrysler buddy who got me my last deal. Of course Chrysler has to be competitive now that Honda has started dumping their Odys with $3000-$4000 discounts. That can't be good for recent buyers who paid full sticker earlier last year.
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Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) Maybe true for that one snapshot in time and someone who can't negotiate a car sale, and needs towing on a minivan  I got 3 K off in spring of 05 and been very happy 40K miles of no real issues. You ever wonder why there are so many rebates that because it's priced too high for what people think they are worth. Maybe the MSRP should be lower?? Last time I was at Chrysler dealer getting an oil change, I talked to a salesperson about an 08 and she was willing to give me EP price on top of $2000 rebates, without me even have to bother my Chrysler buddy who got me my last deal. Of course they are do you see the state that Chrysler is in. They are bleeding money and have by far the highest warranty costs in the business. The dealer I used Cerritos Dodge for my 2001 Caravan BEGS me contantly to buy something ANYTHING! The stuff they send is embarrassing to me. I never get that kind of stuff from Subaru or Honda. 
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| Used car prices. Have any of you heard of the law of supply and demand? When there are twice as many Chrysler minivans on the used car lots as Odysseys because they sold twice as many Chrysler minivans? | |
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Replying to: socalawd (Mar 15, 2008 7:31 pm) Funny how this $3K never came up in any of your previous posts since 05? Amazingly, you just remembered this great deal of your's? I'm also glad you didn't experience any of the 5 or 6 recalls and quiet numerous service alerts Honda issued on the 05s!! You are truly blessed I do wonder why Honda is now discounting like Dodge - up to $6000 on overpriced Touring models!! and what that says about the worth of Odys? I also get embarrasing offers, just recently from Honda due to my Sam's Club request.....
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Could someone post pics of the grey interior (medium slate grey/light shale) of their 2008 town & country chrysler minivan? I am shopping for a T&C right now and don't want the light cream color interior but I have yet to see one with the grey interior. I think the Honda's are nice as well but too much money compared to the deal I can get on the T&C and the Honda only has features on its' top of the line van that I would want.
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Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) Call it what you will the Odyssey is still a far better vehicle than the DGC or T&C. What would you call getting $10,000 off MSRP, which, incidentally, is totally irrelevant as any smart buyer knows you work off true invoice and not MSRP, is that not "dumping"? |
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