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#7424 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [artgpo] by dennisctc Mar 15, 2008 (5:35 am)
Replying to: artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 5:30 am) Both have similar mileage and equipment. I know there was not $9,000 difference in the purchase price.   There was about a $10k difference when I bought my Dodge in 2005!!! Replies to this message: maryh3 (Mar 15, 2008 6:26 am) artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 2:28 pm) dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) and 26 more... maryh3 (Mar 16, 2008 1:43 pm)
#7425 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [dennisctc] by maryh3 Mar 15, 2008 (6:26 am)
Replying to: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:35 am) From Kelly Blue Book   2005 EX/L estimated mileage 40,000                  condition "good"                  trade-in value $16,035   2005 T&C Touring w/leather est mileage 40,000                  condition "good"                  trade-in value $11,280   Do it yourself at:   http://www.kbb.com/kbb/UsedCars/default.aspx Replies to this message: artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 2:28 pm) dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) socalawd (Mar 15, 2008 7:31 pm) and 22 more... artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 6:34 am) sebring95 (Mar 16, 2008 8:55 am) and 1 more... maryh3 (Mar 16, 2008 1:43 pm)
#7426 of 7485 Re: Work horse [srs_49] by maryh3 Mar 15, 2008 (6:37 am)
Replying to: srs_49 (Mar 14, 2008 2:36 am) think transmissions, even automatics can go well beyond the 100K mile mark, provided they have their fluid changed regularly, regardless of what the owners manual says.   I agree totally. IMO transmissions ought to last 200K. My parents had a 1979 Nova that lasted 16 years and 208,000mi without transmission problems. It was "traded in" because the floor boards were rusting out along with the rest of the car. But it had a good transmission and engine!!   BTW 180,000 miles on 2000 T&C 4-spd automatic.   Talked with my trash collector who is lusting after my high mileage T&C. He has 180,000 on his 2000 Ford Windstar. Has replaced the transmission 3 times.
#7427 of 7485 Re: Edmunds BIASED choice is Odyssey [artgpo] by hansienna Mar 15, 2008 (9:21 am)
Replying to: artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 5:30 am) And how do you know the 2 vehicles have comparable equipment? Did you get a printout of ALL options on each?   There was a BIG price difference between a 2005 Ody EX-L and a 2005 Ody EX-L with NAV and RES.   Most used 2005 T&C Touring were rental or fleet with NO extra options. Replies to this message: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 11:33 am)
#7428 of 7485 Re: Edmunds BIASED choice is Odyssey [hansienna] by dennisctc Mar 15, 2008 (11:33 am)
Replying to: hansienna (Mar 15, 2008 9:21 am) Way back in 2005, I seriously considered a Honda Ody.... Some dealers were marking them up $1500!! while Dodge dealers were discounting about $5000. If someone had taken the savings over a Honda and parked it in a savings account for 5 years earning interest, instead of financing the difference and paying interest, who's ahead? All these magazines touting Honda's magical resale value can't calculate true resale because it's impossible to know every transaction price. So they look at MSRP for both and resale for both years later, and totally disregard actual transaction price, making the Honda look vastly superior.   Now just wait as the dumping of 07 and 08 Ody hit the market in about a year.... I'm seeing discounts of $4000 on EX-Ls on this forum. I got $3000 off a 2008 Ody EX-L from Sam's Club without even making a phone call. I'm itching for a new vehicle but leaning towards a Buick Enclave due to superior towing over a minivan.
#7429 of 7485 2009 redesign of Odyssey? by tnbchick Mar 15, 2008 (11:58 am)
I heard 2009 would see a redesign. Is this true? If so, does anyone know what changes it will bring? I'd love to see Swivel seats like Chrysler's Town and Country.   thanks, tnbchick Replies to this message: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 1:55 pm) artgpo (Mar 15, 2008 2:24 pm)
#7430 of 7485 Please help me choose by mommydeb Mar 15, 2008 (12:13 pm)
I am looking for advice. I have 2 kids(2 and 4), possible we will have a 3rd, use will probably be taking kids to school and 2 3000 mile road-trips a year. Our families live 1300 miles in each direction . Hence my search for a minivan. I am between T&C Limited and Ody Touring no Pax There are some things I hate on both, I wish I could combine the 2 into 1.   T&C Has no handles to grab while a front seat passenger - when DH will be driving, I tend to get carsick and I like having these on my 05 MDX (it makes me feel better to hang on). The only handle is WAY in front, for boarding I guess, and I learned on overnight test drive that it doesn't cut it for me.   ODY - why do you cut off the leg room for front passenger? The lower glove box goes so low, neither of us can straighten our legs even when all the way back. DH is 6'4 and I'm 5'9. The stupid box hits us both in the shin. The leg room is there, but it is blocked.   T&C - what were they thinking with the cheap, old style antenna? Even on the Limited. It is so distracting and hideous - I don't think I have had one on my car since the 90's! They take it out of their ad photos for a reason - it is ugly!   ODY - Just a tray in the middle? No console. Is there one available as an add on? I use mine A LOT for storage! I really want one in my next car too.   T&C - Lack of interior colors. I really prefer leather interior. The colors available are light and lighter. I cannot believe they don't have a dark gray type color for the interior in leather!   Both - Is there a cargo net or container to keep things from flying around when 3rd row is folded? I don't want stuff rolling into the front.   DH by far prefers the look of the T&C plus legroom is better for him. I don't particularly like either, but I guess I fall on the side of T&C for exterior appearance. My MDX was great but the lease is about to end and we want more room. I have a lot more trust for a honda product (mom has had 4 accords and I have had 2 acuras). Haven't driven a Chrysler product since an '88 Dodge Lancer that was so-so. I would probably get extended warranty on whichever I get, but I would prefer to stay out of the shop. Also - I've read resale is historically worse on T&C...Are purchase prices different?   Sorry so long winded - any help or opinions are greatly appreciated.
#7431 of 7485 Re: 2009 redesign of Odyssey? [tnbchick] by dennisctc Mar 15, 2008 (1:55 pm)
Replying to: tnbchick (Mar 15, 2008 11:58 am) I think it's 2010, same as Sienna.
#7432 of 7485 Re: 2009 redesign of Odyssey? [tnbchick] by artgpo Mar 15, 2008 (2:24 pm)
Replying to: tnbchick (Mar 15, 2008 11:58 am) I also heard 2010. The current Odyssey hit the market in 2004 as a 2005 model.
#7433 of 7485 Re: Edmunds choice is Odyssey [maryh3] by artgpo Mar 15, 2008 (2:28 pm)
Replying to: maryh3 (Mar 15, 2008 6:26 am) Go to a dealer and see if you can get the KBB for a trade in, especially in this market. Good luck to you.   I really doubt there was $9,000 price difference. That would make the T&C about $18,500 new. Y'all tell some tall tales but even here in Texas that is a HUGE one. HA!   The T&Cs flood the rental market hence no resale value. Check any Thrifty or Dollar lot. Replies to this message: dennisctc (Mar 15, 2008 5:03 pm) socalawd (Mar 15, 2008 7:31 pm) dennisctc (Mar 16, 2008 2:44 am) and 21 more... artgpo (Mar 16, 2008 6:34 am) sebring95 (Mar 16, 2008 8:55 am) bobber1 (Mar 16, 2008 10:00 am) maryh3 (Mar 16, 2008 1:43 pm)

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