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Re: Work horse [marine2] by shipo
Feb 07, 2008 (9:11 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 07, 2008 2:33 pm)

"You maybe right on some Americans vehicle owners not servicing their vehicles enough.My brother is one who doesn't maintain his minivan the way he should. He'll go 6-7,000 miles before changing the oil and filter. He was in need of a brake job on his old one but never got it done before trading it in for this 2006 Dodge minivan. He blows out the dirt on his air filter two or three times before replacing it."
 
You make it sound like you're brother is abusing his van. Yes, no? To me at least it sounds like is that he's maintaining it pretty well. FWIW, I go between ten and twelve thousand miles on an oil change and maybe fifty thousand miles on an airfilter (without ever blowing it out even once) for both of our DGCs. The vans have over a combined quarter of a million miles on them and still run as well as the day they rolled off the showroom floor, still return excellent fuel economy, and still burn only about a quart of oil every seven to eight thousand miles.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Work horse [maryh3] by marig0107
Feb 08, 2008 (7:13 am)

Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 07, 2008 12:26 pm)

never owned an Odyssey so I can't say. We've owned a few clunkers that we bought cheap in college. The 93 Dodge Shadow we bought new and my 16 year old is driving that now, so yes, you can say we took care of her and maintained her quite nicely. The V6 caravan we bought brand new in 98 and tried to maintain her, but she more than crippled us with repairs. Sometimes you just get lemons, no matter what brand.
 
I have only read about happy caravan owners, so it's funny, we are totally at odds. I ONLY know odyssey owners that love their vehicles and caravan owners that hated theirs. Even met a guy at DD dance class that said he rented one, parked it and somehow had to chase the thing down the street. Is it my freaking destiny not to physically meet a satisfied owner.
 
Sometimes I want to stop the boxy caravan owners and talk about their car, the longevity. But the used car dealer gladly traded in the van and gave us a tacoma, so I imagine somewhere in town, some poor family desperately wants a van. Hopefully the dealer will fix the power steering and the a/c heating (yet again, altho this time first time for the heat).
 
Anyway, as always, no matter what the brand, I wish everyone the best of luck in their cars. I don't wish anyone the repairs and insecurity of driving around a lemony car.
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Re: Work horse [marine2] by picky7
Feb 08, 2008 (2:24 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 06, 2008 10:34 am)

I have my first Honda Odyssey in Nov. 2007 and I bought 2007. I have same issue and also an other concern which it is giving me 14 miles a gallon. Is that normal or not. I had a Dodge and it was giving me 19 mile in town and 27 mile on high way. I went to the dealer and he said this car is just fine and you are getting low milage due to cold weather. I told me him that is does not matter because they make car for this market and must know about the weather condition in the state. So how about your average per gallon ? I am sure that Honda is more copy cat. I drove 2300 miles so far and I am not very happy as compare dodge and Chrysler. Too much noise on the road. Making sound at the time of shifting.
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Re: Work horse [picky7] by artgpo
Feb 09, 2008 (7:21 am)

Replying to: picky7 (Feb 08, 2008 2:24 pm)

My 2006 Odyssey has a little over 40,000 miles. The gas mileage has never changed since Day 1: 20 mpg overall and about 25 mpg highway. The lowest mpg I get is 19 in city driving.
 
The Odyssey noisier than some other minis. This is a Honda trait. My son's 2008 Sienna is very quiet. The transmission on the Odyssey is very smooth and quiet.
 
I change the oil when the service computer indicates a change is required, usually about 8,000 - 9,000 miles. Nothing but Mobil 1 has been used since the first change. Wal-Mart changes the oil most times (once in a while at the dealer). On Monday the van goes to the dealer for a brake check as I have symptoms indicative of warped rotors.
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Re: Work horse [artgpo] by shipo
Feb 09, 2008 (10:34 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Feb 09, 2008 7:21 am)

Our neighbor's Odyssey has suffered from recurring warped brake rotors as well (as did our Gen 3 DGC). During the summer of 2006 I recommended a set of cross-drilled Brembo rotors for their van along with a set of ceramic pads (a fix I had already used on our Caravan). They couldn't find a shop to do the work so I did it in my driveway. When I pulled their old rotors off (with only about 20,000 miles on then), the run-out was so pronounced that it could easily be seen by just putting a square along the face of the rotor.
 
I'm happy to say that nearly 30,000 miles later those drilled rotors still stop their Odyssey straight and true with nary a pulse in the pedal.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Work horse [shipo] by hansienna
Mar 02, 2008 (7:58 am)

Replying to: shipo (Feb 09, 2008 10:34 am)

Our daughter's 1999 GC SE is running well at 107,000 miles and my sister's 2001 Ody EX is also running well at 88,000 miles. Both have had a few minor repairs.
 
Based on family experience, the Grand Caravan and the Odyssey are very reliable.
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Re: with some luck [marig0107] by marig0107
Mar 05, 2008 (6:44 am)

Replying to: marig0107 (Nov 18, 2007 9:34 am)

update...............it worked out for dh. He got his Toyota Tacoma and is delighted. Even better, they took the van for way more than it's worth with some cash, of course. It is amazing to not feel that stress with the van sitting outside.
 
And btw, was reading the new issue of Consumer Reports, check it out. It is an eye opener. Listed as one of the worst cars to buy, you guess it, the 1998 Caravan V6 model. Guess who owned that one? Nice to know I wasn't totally crazy! I thought it had to be ONLY my van that was the pain in the posterior.
 
Anyway, thanx for everyone's well wishes. They were so appreciated. You let me vent all I wanted about that van and were never mean or rude. There was only one person once and he got the boot. I was afraid to write in, but everyone here was very nice.
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Re: with some luck [marig0107] by shipo
Mar 05, 2008 (7:14 am)

Replying to: marig0107 (Mar 05, 2008 6:44 am)

He-he, I think I'm the one you are referring to as having gotten the boot. Sorry, I'm still very much around.
 
Of course my perspective on 1998 Chrysler minivans is completely at odds with yours. Our DGC Sport from that year now has 155,000 mile on it and since new it has only cost us about $3,000 in unscheduled maintenance (including the new transmission), and continues to be absolutely the most reliable car I've ever owned (among those that I've driven for at least 75,000 miles).
 
Good luck with your 'Yota.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: with some luck [shipo] by marig0107
Mar 05, 2008 (7:23 am)

Replying to: shipo (Mar 05, 2008 7:14 am)

couldn't possibly be you unless you've been invaded by the pod people You are just too nice! lol
 
Thanx for the well wishes. I just want some darn peace around here regardless of car. And dh has to deploy sometime so guess who gets to drive that behemoth for a bit rofl
 
Glad to hear your van is running strong. I have heard a few on here that have had some positives so it's nice to have that counteract the only negatives I had recently heard.
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Confused about which Van to get by cheapdad000
Mar 05, 2008 (9:59 am)
Background:
 
Current van is a 2002 Mazda MPV ES which now with 3 children we have outgrown (only really seats 6 with booster/car seats installed).
 
Requirements:
 
Looking for van which can occasionally seat 8 (when friends/relatives visit and we all go out together), but with easy flexibility in and out of 3rd row for day to day driving. Also, Looking for van with much lateral legroom for driver. Specifically, I'm 6'2" (football player build) and on long trips, no matter how far back the driver seat is my right leg constantly bangs against the center dash/console (and the cupholders on the MPV). Even with cruise control on (to take foot off the pedals), cannot move leg far enough to the right to get a good stretch/comfort.
 
Actions:
  
Test drove 2008 Odyssey EXL RES. Ride was good. Extra stowable 8th seat was great, although not sure who would fit on it or whether a car seat could fit on it. Driver seat was terribly uncomfortable. Same problem with my right leg banging the center console. Liked Honda's package simplicity - easy to cross shop other dealers.
 
Then drove 2008 Toyota Sienna LE. Ride was much softer than the Honda - much like the Honda salesman told me it was going to be. Thought with the extra "published" front seat legroom, the seating would be more comfortable than the Odyssey - or at least my right leg would be more comfortable. Not the case - comfort was about the same as with the Odyssey. Even after trying multiple tilts/heights of each seat.
 
Yesterday drove the 2008 T&C Touring. Photo comparisons showed what looked to be a flatter dash with less of a protrusion into the cabin by the center console/dash. So even with front legroom measurements similar to the Odyssey, there was hope it would be doable. Sitting in the drivers seat I was not disappointed. Plenty of space to swing my right knee as far to the right as I wanted without tilting the front seat too far back. So now my concerns with this model: lack of seating for 8 (or specifically seating 3 people/children in the 2nd row), perceived quality issues/poorer resale if it turns out I want to get rid of van in a few years, small engine(s) on low trim models, 2nd row buckets do not slide to center to make easy passage to backseat.
 
Questions:
 
Anyone have any different feedback around the console issue - were you able to get the front seat more comfortable on the Ody/Sienna? Any way to get an aftermarket 3rd 2nd row seat into the T&C. Right now, I may have to look at full size SUVs with a front bench seat. Just looking for something with a front seat as comfortable as the one on my 1989 Ford Taurus.....

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