Last post on Mar 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM
You are in the Honda Odyssey
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Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#7221 of 7485 Re: Power Liftgate on Honda/Toyota vs. DCX [1997montez34]
Sep 18, 2006 (10:16 pm)
Sound like you are enjoying your Odyssey. Good for you. I hope you travel many happy miles in it.
Yes I am, and the same to you. Minivans are all to overlooked when it comes to great safe economicial family transportation. I have owned 4 dodges and probably will own more in the future I've done probably 350K+ in them and never got stranded. One trany replacement and no engine problem2. Well my 1992 Caravan with the 3 liter did leak oil after 80K. The dodge didn't have the features I wanted but it had the price. I probably shouldn't have bought it in the first place.
#7222 of 7485 Re: Odyssey is THE BEST minivan [jipster]
Sep 18, 2006 (10:20 pm)
hans, what happened from the time you test drove your 2006 Sienna to the time you think of it as a disappointment?
The toyota dealership personel drugged him before the test drive. How else do you think toyota keeps getting more market share with great customer satisfaction.
Would you have done anything different in your purchasing decision if you could go back in time?
He would have bought a Ody so he could trade it in for a Sienna now!!
If you didn't have enough road time in the Sienna van, you may want to think about renting the 2007 Ody or 2008 GC SXT for about a week to compare.
Seriously wait for the 2008 GC or T&C to come out you maybe kicking yourself in the pants if it's as good as it seems it will be!!
#7223 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [jipster]
Sep 19, 2006 (11:25 am)
I test drove a 2004 Sienna and a 2005 Odyssey a few months before we bought the 2006 Sienna.
At first, I loved the Sienna because of the much more comfortable driver's seat and better performance of the Sienna 3.3L V6 with 5 speed AT than the T&C 3.3L V6 with 4 speed AT.
However, I was too careless to notice the 2006 Sienna did NOT have a cassette player but had the 6 CD in dash changer with MP3 capability. I have many nice cassettes, not many CD's, and no MP3 player. I also noticed that the shiny surface of the Sienna dash reflects sunlight into my eyes and this summer noticed there is MUCH more wind noise in the Sienna than in the T&C (probably since the roll down windows in sliding doors are recessed whereas the T&C windows are flush). It also became apparent that separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger is a MUST HAVE feature in any vehicle for my wife and I.
What would I have done differently if I could go back in time? I would HAVE kept the 2002 Chrysler T&C LX and just NOT purchase a new vehicle....Sienna (or Odyssey).
#7224 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [hansienna]
Sep 19, 2006 (12:03 pm)
You could correct your mistake by dumping the Sienna soon so it does not lose much more depreciation and go back to a T&C or Grand Caravan, and you might nearly break even, with the discounts Chrysler is giving. You probably won't be able to get a cassette player option much longer from any manufacturer, though I see Chrysler still offers that option on one of their sound system combinations. If you don't need all the space, you could even consider a short wheel base version, assuming you can live without stowable seats in either second or third row.
From what I have observed, most people don't claim that Odyssey is all that quiet a minivan. Hard to beat either the old or new Chrysler twins for quietness
Or, you can hang on for another year with the Sienna and wait to see what Chrysler's 2008 redesign will bring.
The least expensive option, unfortunately you do not have anymore, which was to keep the old T&C. (unless you find a creampuff late model used one, perhaps that may be a good option?)
It is never a good idea to trade away or sell a vehicle you are very happy with, unless it is getting up in mileage or you fear decreased reliability by driving an older vehicle.
#7225 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [badgerfan]
Sep 19, 2006 (12:42 pm)
"Or, you can hang on for another year with the Sienna and wait to see what Chrysler's 2008 redesign will bring. "
Probably your best bet, since cars lose a HUGE chunk in depreciation their first year and much less their 2nd (and subsequent) years. You've already lost that first year's depreciation. Selling now just to by ANOTHER new van (Ody or DCX) is just throwing good money after bad.
Besides, just THINK of the deals you could get on a brand new '07 DCX once the all new '08's hit the dealer lots.....
#7226 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [rorr]
Sep 19, 2006 (2:19 pm)
Actually, year one and two for the Honda/Toyota isn't all that bad. Year three and four jumps up a bit. Typically. The domestics take a larger pounding the first couple years. So...you could probably sell/trade the Toyota and buy a 1 or 2 year old T&C and make out like a bandit. I trade every 2-3 years and it's tough to beat the Hondas/Toyotas even if they are more expensive up front.
#7227 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [hansienna]
Sep 20, 2006 (5:10 am)
Oddy EX doesn't have a cassette player either.
You should wait for the 2008 DCX minivans so you potentially don't end up in the same situation a year from now.
#7228 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [aaron_t]
Sep 20, 2006 (6:22 am)
And if the '08 DC vans have a factory cassette player option I'd fall off my chair in disbelief. Gone like yesterday, regardless of how many you've got laying around.
The Ody does have a dealer-installed Cassette option (as do a lot of other vehicles). It goes where the OEM DVD player goes, so if you have the RES you're out of luck.
#7229 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [sebring95]
Sep 20, 2006 (9:20 am)
"The Ody does have a dealer-installed Cassette option"
Yep. Or one could buy the cassette player from HandA Accessories (around $190) and install it themselves.
#7230 of 7485 Re: What happened between test drive and disappointment? [sebring95]
Sep 20, 2006 (9:58 am)
Or, take the 80's Walkman he has and plug it into the aux input port.
I meant those to be seperate points. There may be significant improvements to the DCX vans that are worth waiting for. THe prices for competitors should drop as well as outgoing models.