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What is this discussion about? Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van

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#5992 of 7485 DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! by rustinginvt

Jan 14, 2006 (12:47 am)

My 2003 Chrysler T&C minivan had the ENGINE REPLACED at 14k miles! That was the first trip to the dealer, on the third trip to the dealer for a failed wheel slip sensor, the dealer couldn't give me a loaner because he had SIX transmission jobs waiting ahead of me!!!!!!!!Yep,you guessed it ALL Dodge/Chrysler minivans. (6 on the same day, what does that say for reliability?) The friend who talked me into buying the van was driving on the interstate (after I bought mine of course) when his Dodge grand caravan (same engine and drivetrain as T&C)transmission failed at 56k miles. I just traded the T&C with 44k miles in on a 2006 TOYOTA RAV4. Didn't need all that space anyway.

#5993 of 7485 Re: Another Honda FIRST!! [socalawd] by claires HOST

Jan 14, 2006 (1:32 am)

Replying to: socalawd (Jan 13, 2006 8:04 pm)
As stated by the host in the Odyssey Problems & Solutions board, the software's been glitchy and has prevented this discussion from being copied here so far, but it's being worked on.

#5994 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [rustinginvt] by artgpo

Jan 14, 2006 (5:46 am)

Replying to: rustinginvt (Jan 14, 2006 12:47 am)
Yes, the DCX vans still suffer from the transmission problems I encountered in my '93 DGC. I was told my posted information was no longer valid because it was outdated. Of course it was the DCX crowd making that claim. Now they will come on here and say that seven faulty transmissions are but a drop in the HUGE DCX production. They will also tell you that one faulty Odyssey part is representative of a entire model generation's (and the one after) parts. Go figure.
 
It is as I and many of my friends and relatives, all former DCX owners have been saying for many years: If you want a reliable, quality vehicle do not think DCX.

#5995 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [artgpo] by dennisctc

Jan 14, 2006 (6:19 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Jan 14, 2006 5:46 am)
For balance....This is my 3rd very trouble free DCX Minivan, and I have many friends and relatives that all have very positive experiences with DCX Minivan.
 
I can easily say the same negative things about Odys "still suffering from transmission problems", or needing engines replaced based on Ody posts. I won't say 7 trannies are a drop in a bucket but will point out that the highly touted and pricey Odys don't seem to be any better than DCX's van, and one could even make a point that the current gen is worst than DCX's.
 
I will also say that when you see post after post on Ody problem areas i.e...windshield noise, brake issues etc....People could assume that Honda doesn't care much for their customers, having not fixed 05 MY problems for 06 buyers!
 
My final point is, people who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones!!! I think if I truly wanted to spend $30k on a high quality minivan - I'd have a Sienna in my driveway over any other. Fortunately, I only had to spend $20k for one - my DCX van!

#5996 of 7485 Re: I find it amazing [socalawd] by dennisctc

Jan 14, 2006 (6:24 am)

Replying to: socalawd (Jan 13, 2006 8:09 pm)
Huh I guess you don't mind a fish smell in your car. I'll use a ice chest. But as usual shows you the determination involved in trying to make stow and go useful!!
 
No determination needed, I think the sucess of "Stow N Go" speaks for itself, and I'm sure Honda/Toyota are desperately trying to bring out a version themselves.
 
The only odor I'd truly be concerned about would be if one of my friends was an Ody owner (usually what they say smells fishier than the real fish!).

#5997 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [rustinginvt] by dennisctc

Jan 14, 2006 (6:32 am)

Replying to: rustinginvt (Jan 14, 2006 12:47 am)
My 2003 Chrysler T&C minivan had the ENGINE REPLACED at 14k miles!
 
I can beat that!! One 2005 Ody owner had his engine replaced at 700 miles!!! Well, that was his claim.....you never know on these boards, but as long as we're bashing, I'll go for balance here!!!

#5998 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [dennisctc] by artgpo

Jan 14, 2006 (7:08 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jan 14, 2006 6:19 am)
I can easily say the same negative things about Odys "still suffering from transmission problems", or needing engines replaced based on Ody posts.
 
You are one of the most continuously negative Odyssey bashers on this forum. You never miss the chance to bash Honda without having had first hand ownership experience. Others of us who have owned both brands, DCX and Honda, you dismiss. You cannot have it both ways.
 
I will never buy another DCX product unless they are bought out and owned by an Asian company.
 
I tried for years to keep my automotive dollars here in the USA. Every time, except for a '97 Windstar, I got beat over the head by Detroit junk. I will concede the mechanical reliability of USA nameplates has gotten much better. The fit, finish and build quality is still light years behind Honda, Toyota and now Kia and Hyundai.
 
I consider myself to be highly qualified to make posts on these forums due to my ownership of almost every nameplate over the years. I post only actual owner experience, not some assumed condition of a rival nameplate.

#5999 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [rustinginvt] by jipster

Jan 14, 2006 (7:31 am)

Replying to: rustinginvt (Jan 14, 2006 12:47 am)
"the dealer couldn't give me a loaner because he had SIX transmission jobs waiting ahead of me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
 
Thats what the dealer "said" right? Sounds like your dealer may have been trying to get out of providing a free loaner. Budget or Enterprise must have run out of rentals due to the run on bad transmissions.

#6000 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [artgpo] by dennisctc

Jan 14, 2006 (9:45 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Jan 14, 2006 7:08 am)
You are one of the most continuously negative Odyssey bashers on this forum. You never miss the chance to bash Honda without having had first hand ownership experience.
 
Sorry but defending DCX against outright bashing by pointing out identical Honda problems is not bashing in my book. Just because you may have had problems with a domestic brand, doesn't mean you can paint them all as troublesome, like you accuse me of doing!
 
I have owned VW, Ford, GM, BMW, Acura and Honda brands, so can I defend DCX now?? Am I now qualified or are you dismissing my opinions and experiences? FYI - I even work in the automotive industry for a supplier to ALL OEMs, not just domestics.
 
The fit, finish and build quality is still light years behind Honda, Toyota and now Kia and Hyundai.
 
Light years? What basis in reality is this? My DCX van is tight as a drum. I'm sure this isn't bashing at all, but if I point out examples of actual poor fit and finish on an Ody, from actual owners (who aren't as qualified as others to post their problems I'm sure!!) then I'm the one bashing huh?
 
Based on your comments about your 93 Caravan, I could say all Hondas are complete junk because my 1979 Civic had rust and mechanical problems, therefore ALL Hondas will forever have them!!!

#6001 of 7485 Re: DON'T BUY A DODGE/CHRYSLER MINIVAN!!!!!!! [jipster] by dennisctc

Jan 14, 2006 (10:10 am)

Replying to: jipster (Jan 14, 2006 7:31 am)
Thats what the dealer "said" right?
 
Bet this dealer will be in business for a long time with customer service/attitude like that! I can't imagine a dealer actually saying something like that.

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