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#5643 of 7485 Re: If this topic... [fljoslin]
by fljoslin
Dec 20, 2005 (2:06 pm)
WOW. I just spent some time in the Chrysler Town and Country prices paid section. My head hurts. All the rebates and employee pricing and loyalty programs and........
The following is for a 2005 T&C Limited. (post #173 of 282). Still does not say how much the van was but at least you get some idea without having to resort to Euclidian Geometry to figure out the cost.
Got the TnC with zero pct financing, tax, title, and additional 7/70 GE bumper to bumper warranty for about $34K. Although the car seems very tight, it was delievered with 2 flaws: no GPS antenna installed for the nav system, and right rear quarter window was out of alignment (about 1/4 inch not flush with the vehicle side). The dealership jumped right on these, but I'm feeling like the additional warranty was a good roll of the dice if we keep the car for 70K miles.
#5644 of 7485 Re: If this topic... [fljoslin]
by coltswin
Dec 20, 2005 (3:05 pm)
I replied with what I paid for a 2005 signature series which stickers for about 4K less that a limited awhile back. Has just about everything the limited has (less not so fancy leather seats and infinity sound) You can get a T&C with leather, DVD, navigation, sunroof, power sliders and hatch for much less than a comparable Ody period.
#5645 of 7485 Re: If this topic... [coltswin]
by thegraduate
Dec 20, 2005 (3:18 pm)
How big is that nav screen? Is it voice activated? ARe there power roll down windows in positions 3 and 4? Stability Control? You may can get those features for less than the Ody, but calling it comparable really isn't fair to the Honda.
#5646 of 7485 Re: It does not get the best mileage [bobw3]
by fljoslin
Dec 20, 2005 (3:33 pm)
"the T&C just did not offer what I wanted. "
Can you elaborate? What didn't it have? What's your family size and usage, since you have both the Pacifica & Odyssey?
I drive a 1999 Intrepid, my wife drives the 2005 Pacifica. We were looking for a vehicle to replace a 1995 Suburban for mostly family trips and some hauling of large items.
I wanted the best gas mileage, the best acceleration, the best handling, the best comfort for five, the best warranty, the best re-sale value, the least hassle buying experience. I believe that is what I got with the 2006 Odyssey EX-L.
#5647 of 7485 Re: If this topic... [coltswin]
by thegraduate
Dec 20, 2005 (3:39 pm)
I built the Signature series on the Chrysler website, and it came to a grand total of $34,454 (only option I added was the rear DVD player. You essentially match the price of the Ody EX-L NAVI RES(34,595). The only extra features I can find that the Chrysler has on the Ody is the power hatch.
I know that no one in their right mind will pay full list price for a Chrysler, so let's go with the 4k off sticker you got. Now we are at 30,500.
Let's not forget that the Odyssey has many features not on the DCX!
5-speed auto,
244hp engine,
VCM with 20/28mpg,
Side roll-down windows (that work from the remote entry fob),
voice activated controls (a great safety feature),
heated seats,
8th person seating,
5 year 60k mile powertrain warranty,
leather wrapped shift knob,
Electronic Brake Distribution,
Stability Control (perhaps the most valuable).
This makes for a comparison that isn't really fair to either car. The DCX is the choice if the budget is first on your list, the Honda being the choice for those that want everything up to date on a van.
#5648 of 7485 Re: Price paid for 2006 Town&Country Limited ? [kfdmed]
by fljoslin
Dec 20, 2005 (3:39 pm)
Paid just under 28K for T&C touring signature series. Also got 0% financing for 5 years. Signature series includes ... leather, dual power doors, power hatch, sunroof, 6 CD/DVD changer, rear video, navigation, tri-zone automatic temperature control and of course stow and go seating that is not available on any other van. I believe I could have gotten an additional $1500 off if I didnt take the 0% financing. The 0% worked out better for me.
I have just seen new 2006 Odyssey EX-L listed her for $29,990 and other post in the Honda Odyssey prices paid section show lower prices paid down to about $28K. If you trade off some of the electronic features on the TC (which I don't want) for some of the engineering and safety features of the Odyssey (which I do want), I would say the cost is very close.
#5650 of 7485 Re: Many Odd features not on the T&C? ... [thegraduate]
by hansienna
Dec 20, 2005 (3:43 pm)
WOW. How can we ever live without the "leather wrapped shift knob" ?
The side roll down windows that work from the remote entry fob will be greatly appreciated by thieves.
#5651 of 7485 Re: Price paid for 2006 Town&Country Limited ? [fljoslin]
by coltswin
Dec 20, 2005 (3:54 pm)
Well when I was shopping the EX-L with rear entertainment could be had for 1K over invoice. It still would have been alot more than what I paid for my T&C at the end of 5 years due to the 0% financing. Like 7k+ more. And I got navigation and power hatch that are a great convenience to me. The rear video was a must have.
#5652 of 7485 Re: DCX transmissions [socalawd]
by dennisctc
Dec 20, 2005 (4:05 pm)
It is because Honda people post all the time while DCX people are not as web friendly!! Heck the research on the DCX vans is below the ford!! I'll give you some real world Caravan numbers,11 trips(some repeats due to part not being there and service guy getting fired)to the dealer in 3 years(28K miles) unscheduled, 2 more to the local mech during the next 14 months!! So far none on my Ody 8K miles. Boy it's a nice van.
All vehicles have problems! My experience has been just the opposite....3 caravans - 2 with 70k miles each with no major problems, and none with me 2005 DGC SXT! But unlike some, I know better than to buy first model year products. I don't need to have the latest and greatest high tech troublesome gizmos to impress the neighbors. I've lost count of the Ody problem posts here (all as valid as yours) with Ody owners being back to dealer mulitple times for fix something.
DCX owners don't have to search constantly, around the country for a deal. DCX owners, while buying over 2 times the numbers of Odys, don't have problems..problems that appear to be carry over from the 2005s (windshield noise, brakes etc..)..therefore we don't have constant problems to post, ask for help on!!!
Funny how Ody owners are the ones doing most of the bashing of DCX vans, mostly putting our vans down for fuzzy, personal opinion stuff like...cheap, hard to use Stow N Go seats, quality issues, crap, junky etc... Whereas Ody owners are the ones having the most problems with real issues.