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Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#5078 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [nwng]
Nov 08, 2005 (12:32 pm)
If a crash is severe enough to force rescue people to get you out, likely there is a lot of structural damage to the van anyways, so emergency rescue crews would have to use "jaws of life" to get you out.
I suppose there could be some electronic interlock that unlocks the doors if the airbags go off, but fortunately, we have never had to test that feature!
In any event, on our 1996 Dodge Caravan, front doors can be opened from the inside even if the locks are actuated. The inside door latch handle overrides the locks. On the rear sliders (at least the manual vans) you cannot do this. The power locks have to be unlocked manually.
Furthermore, the DC minivans are also equipped with child safety interlock levers on the doors that if engaged, the sliding doors cannot be opened from the inside at all whether locked or unlocked, to keep kiddies from leaving the van without adult supervision.
I assume the new DC minivans are similar.
#5080 of 7485 Re: Hands down winner: Odyssey! [remark700]
Nov 08, 2005 (5:02 pm)
The DC use cheaper alloys and materials in the build to save money and offset their labor cost. This is reflected in shorter lifespan, higher maintainace and repair cost and lower resale.
Where does this wisdom come from? You happen to be a manufacturing engineer for DCX also? Maybe in purchasing for raw matl? One has only to go to other areas on here and see DCX owners talking about their Vans with 150k - 200k miles on them, needing something or other.
#5081 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [socalawd]
Nov 08, 2005 (5:09 pm)
Most manufacturers can programs the locks to do whatever the customer wants via the Body Control Module or Engine Control Module. It's whatever you like. I for one, driving around some areas of Detroit, like knowing the doors are locked
Maybe Honda doesn't allow it due to liability issues? or philosphy, like the german thinking (until recently) that cup holders are a driving hazard.
#5082 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [nwng]
Nov 08, 2005 (5:23 pm)
it's a pretty simple question: can people open the doors from the outside(to pull you out) after a crash if you have auto door locks? This applies to vans and many other type of vehicles.
Maybe my answer was not clear. Yes, the doors can be opened if you have the auto lock feature.
"We have a 01 DGC EX and all the doors unlock and the interior lights come on."
I listed all the other safety features that came with our van because a lot of people here like to comment on all the Ody safety features that come standard, but don't seem to value the safety features on Daimlerchrysler minivans that come standard or as options. One feature that I like on DamilerChrysler minivans, that I don't believe is on the Ody, is the battery savior feature.
#5083 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [badgerfan]
Nov 08, 2005 (8:22 pm)
you don't need to be in a severe crash to need people helping you to get out of the car.
So you do not know if the doors will unlock during a crash.
On the other hand, masterpaul not only knows they will unlock after a crash, but the interior lights will come on as well
#5084 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [masterpaul1]
Nov 08, 2005 (8:38 pm)
One feature that I like on DamilerChrysler minivans, that I don't believe is on the Ody, is the battery savior feature.
I've never had problem with this in my life. But all but one of my DCX products had a battery that had to be replaced in the first 3 years. Can it save me from that. Also the 2001 DGC may(based on build date) have a poor offset rating. Has a middle rear seat with no headrest or 3 point seatbelt. So it's really a 6 passenger car. Has 4 star front crash ratings front passenger and driver and a 3 star rollover rating. I really wouldn't be so proud.
#5085 of 7485 Can't reason with a Honda owner
Nov 08, 2005 (8:51 pm)
Millions of people are very happy, satisfied owners of DC minivans. Many are repeat buyers.
People who "Pay More, Get Less" buying a Honda Odyssey are insecure. Many Odyssey owners feel they must trash DC minivans to justify their overpriced purchase.
Agreed: Odyssey has the most power. Odyssey has seating for 8 that can become comfortable seating for 7. DC does not currently offer seating for 8 but a person could have seating for 8 in a pre-Stow 'N Go GC or T&C by purchasing an additional 3 passenger 3rd row seat and put it in the 2nd row. With the cost of the extra seat, a comparably equipped DC minivan would cost no more than the Odd EX.
#5086 of 7485 Re: auto door locks [socalawd]
Nov 08, 2005 (10:00 pm)
I've never had problem with this in my life. But all but one of my DCX products had a battery that had to be replaced in the first 3 years.
Maybe you are miss understanding me. The battery savior feature, works by turning off any of the interior or head lights left on while not in the vechicle to save you from coming back to your vechicle with a dead/drained battery. This was a feature that a couple people in the Honda Ody Problems Forum complained about not having.
Has a middle rear seat with no headrest or 3 point seatbelt. So it's really a 6 passenger car.
Our third row 50/50 bench seat does not have the middle head rest nor a 3 point seat belt. Although I wish we did have it, it's not a deal breaker for us since we have a family of six. But we can still seat seven if we had to. A lap belt is better than nothing.
Has 4 star front crash ratings front passenger and driver and a 3 star rollover rating.
You forgot to mention the 5 star side front and rear seat rating. And with front driver and passenger side air bags, it got 5 stars. A three star roll over rating for this size of minivan is really good. So what's your point?
Also the 2001 DGC may(based on build date) have a poor offset rating.
You are correct. The only reason it has a poor overall rating was because of the fuel leak. To which according to Daimlerchrysler, when they tested the same vechicle about 50 times, could not reproduce this problem. The IIHS never did issue a recall for this, so obviously there was not and has not been a problem with the 01 Daimlerchrysler minivans. If there was I'm sure a recall would have gone out by the IIHS.
#5087 of 7485 Re: Can't reason with a Honda owner [hansienna]
Nov 08, 2005 (10:37 pm)
People who "Pay More, Get Less" buying a Honda Odyssey are insecure.
Wait didn't I buy a minivan? I get jokes about it at work who cares what brand it is. I have no problems with my feelings. Please talk about the van and not what I think. I try not to say what you feel. How would I know?? Really mostly you sound silly! It's a base argument from someone that really has nothing to say!! I like my Odyssey because I think it's the best car for my family!! Does that make me unreasonable?? I really don't care if I could have saved a few dollars buying a DCX van. As I've said many times IT DOSEN't HAVE the FEATURES I want!! Now go buy a Sienna because the DCX isn't good enough for you and be done with it!!