Last post on Mar 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM
You are in the Honda Odyssey
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#4980 of 7485 Re: 2005 Caravan, Grand Caravan, Town & Country were ALL SOLD OUT [socalawd]
Nov 01, 2005 (7:02 pm)
I am writing about the inventory in AUGUST 2005 when I was actively looking.
I will probably buy the Toyota Sienna LE at Mark Miller Toyota when I get my next vehicle. Mark Miller has the best inventory of Sienna and does not load them all up with overpriced Toyota options as does Menlove Toyota and Larry H. Miller Toyota. Most Toyota owners are much more pleasant than most of the Honda owners...altho I have met nice salesmen at Willey Honda, Ken Garff Honda, Ken Garff West Valley Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep, and Doug Smith Chrysler/Jeep/Dodge.
Doug Smith caters to buyers of USED Grand Caravans and sold 3 or 4 USED 2005 GC for every NEW 2005 GC.
I would NOT buy either a Dodge or Toyota from Menlove Dodge/Toyota nor any vehicle from one of the dozens of Larry H. Miller dealerships....even though Larry H. Miller himself is a very nice guy.
#4981 of 7485 Re: A Guess [dennisctc]
Nov 01, 2005 (7:43 pm)
I like to look at the Chrysler web site, in particular the local dealer inventory. I read the Magneson-Moss sticker to see what is offered as standard equipment. My point is that in September, there were dozens of 2005 T&C vans languishing on Metroplex area dealers lots. In contrast, when I first looked at the Odyssey I was hoping for a deal on a 2005. My first trip to a Honda dealer in late August yielded five 2006 models and no 2005s. They were gone by mid-August.
In fairness, I drove a Sienna XLE in June. I came back to that same dealer in September and it was still there. By its Texas state inspection sticker it had been at the dealer since March. Guess what? It is still there along with another XLE but that one has been there since February!
I like my Odyssey. As I said before I have owned a Vanagon, Nissan Van, Trans Sport, Grand Caravan, Windstar, Sihouette and now the 06 Odyssey. The VW, Nissan and Dodge were junk. The rest were very reliable.
I do not think people are stupid for buying another brand different from mine. We all make choices based on our personal taste. I am certain the DCX folks are just crazy about their machines. My like for the Odyssey could change upon a major problem cropping up. All I can say in conclusion is that if any one of you DCX troops would like to do a side by side quality comparison you have a deal!
Can't we all just get along?
#4983 of 7485 Re: My Fluff Piece [dennisctc]
Nov 01, 2005 (8:05 pm)
When you realize the Odyssey is a totally new design with state of the art features and dealers can't charge above MRSP
I thought they all charged above MSRP. At least that what I always hear you pushing when you compare costs.
and they're not gaining much market share???
And they aren't discounting like crazy. Looks like the T&C has slowed down. Not +87% but +31% for the year to date oh no. Also the Dodge brand is down -4% year to date. Do we really want market share?? No I think they like the good margins!!
Whereas the Dodge is a more mature design?
Your right a little old for my tastes!!
#4985 of 7485 Re: A Guess [artgpo]
Nov 01, 2005 (10:37 pm)
I have made close comparison of Odd EX, GC SXT, and Sienna LE. Odd EX has most comfortable 2nd row seats but costs too much in comparison. GC SXT has separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger AND complete overhead console - less the Instant Economy reading of my 02 T&C LX and costs the least of the 3. Sienna LE has THE MOST Attractive instrument cluster, most attractive interior, most cargo space behind 3rd row seat, and the most responsive engine/transmission and the dealer has the best inventory in the price range I would pay.
#4987 of 7485 Re: A Guess [hansienna]
Nov 02, 2005 (5:34 am)
Odyssey has automatic climate control for driver and front seat passenger and manual but separate climate control for the rear. Sienna XLE has automatic three zone climate control. The Honda had more get up and go than did the Sienna I drove back to back.
#4988 of 7485 Inventory on 11/2/05
Nov 02, 2005 (6:16 am)
As a curiosity I went onto both Chrysler's and Toyota sites this morning to check on 2005 left over stock. I found 12 T&C models at the first four dealers I researched. There are 135 2005 Siennas in stock around this area. 2005 Odyssey = 0.
No editiorial comment.
#4989 of 7485 Re: Inventory on 11/2/05 [artgpo]
Nov 02, 2005 (6:21 am)
In the Big Picture, does it really matter? In the end if DCX builds 500,000 Minivan, they'll find homes eventually. Same for Honda or Toyota or GM. We'll see in few months the final 2005 figures and then the editorials can start.