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Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#4011 of 7485 Re: Competitive Minivan Comparision everything you wanna know [hrao]
Jul 21, 2005 (2:27 pm)
NHTSA has crash and rollover rating posted on their website, Honda scored very poorly, Town & Country has a 5 Star rating.
What are you talking about they are the same 5 stars all around 4 for rollover. But the offset for the dodge is worse. Honda is a best Pick
Overall Value and resale values for the past 20 years can be found in the link below. Total 5 year and 10 year cost of ownership are low for Sienna and Chrysler Town and Country. Honda has the highest.
Read your chart again and please don't compare to pre 1999 odyssey we all know this was a small 4 banger with doors that open like a wagon. You have what looks like close to MSRP for the Ex and what looks like employee discount - incentives for the Dodge still the first year loss is over 20% on the dodge damn didn't know it was that high!
JDPowers is a excellent company that is beyond reproach they hit it all on the nose just like consumer reports.
#4012 of 7485 Re: socalawd [sebring95]
Jul 21, 2005 (3:25 pm)
"A better gauge of demand for a vehicle is the inventory levels. Right now the Caravan has a 47 day supply T&C 42 days (both of which are quite good actually), and the Odyssey a 26 day supply..."
Not really. The ultimate gauge of success of any vehicle is the percentage of its category market share. Inventory level...or days supply...is not reliable. Factory outputs vary for all sorts of reasons, including intentional reductions to offset slow sales of a sister model, and next months supply of Ody could be double the 26 figure. The only thing that low supply day figure proves is that demand exceeds availability. This is how Honda dealers enjoy keeping prices high.
Jul 21, 2005 (4:16 pm)
Better read post 4007 again. Monthly lease rates for 2005 Odyssey is the highest ($299.00) vs ($179.00) Chrysler TC for comparably equipped minivans. And the J.D. Power ratings for 2005 are as follows: mechanical quality, Odyssey 4 Chrysler TC 3, Dodge Caravan 4. Feature and accessory quality, Odyssey 3, Chrysler TC 5, Dodge Caravan 5. Body and interior quality, Odyssey 2, Chrysler TC 4, Dodge Caravan 3. Overall quality, Odyssey 2, Chrysler TC 4, Dodge Caravan 4. "JDPowers is a excellent company that is beyond reproach they hit it all on the nose ........."
#4015 of 7485 Re: Socalawd [hayneldan]
Jul 21, 2005 (4:32 pm)
Better read post 4007 again. Monthly lease rates for 2005 Odyssey is the highest ($299.00) vs ($179.00) Chrysler TC for comparably equipped minivans.
Like I'm gonna lease a minivan. It works well for company cars and rental cars so they will be moving alot of inventory. I paid cash and will keep the car 10 years so nix the finance charge. I figure cost of ownership over that time isn't much of a concern. The depreciation on the dodge over 5 years from new at the ED - incentive price is still much larger than Honda. The only way it makes a big differrence is to buy a 2 year old DCX van and then keep it 5 years now that looks good because of DCX initial depreciation. I can't buy a car that often and lose that kind of money!!
#4016 of 7485 socalawd Mythbusters
Jul 21, 2005 (6:30 pm)
Sorry not following your logic, from the chart www.verity-sol.com//Auto/resalevalue.html. 10 YEARS The difference in inital purchase price 2005 Odyssey compared to 2005. T&C $27,705 Ody vs $23,510 T&C is $4,195.00 in favor of the T&C. After 10 years (private party sale) a 1995 Ody is worth $5,830 and the T&C is worth $3,660 a difference of only $2,170 in favor of Ody. $4,195-$2,170 =$2,025 in favor of T&C. You would be $2,025 ahead if you bought T&C. 5 YEARS the difference in purchase price is the same $4195 in favor of the T&C after 5 years (private party sale) the Ody is worth $13,665 aand the T&C $9,940 a difference of $3,715 in favor of Ody. $4,195 original price difference -$3,715 sale price after 5years = $480 in favor of the T&C. You would be $480 ahead if you bought T&C. Myth Busted!
#4017 of 7485 Re: socalawd Mythbusters [hayneldan]
Jul 21, 2005 (6:37 pm)
Thanks for busting that myth hayneldan. I could never understand why I hear that the Honda Ody is the best value in minivans...and that you get the most for your money. When it is one of the most expensive vans to own feature for feature.
Jul 21, 2005 (7:28 pm)
It was probably pulled because it used data from 3 auto forums including Edmunds, manafacturers websites, and actual dealer quotes. Mentioning other car sites on Edmunds is in violation of the terms of service, (TOS). I usually copy and paste articles like that on to email the make a hard copy.