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#348 of 7485 DTKWOK: Do you remember Tayalynn who got rid of her 1999 Odyssey after it had so many problems?
Jun 10, 2001 (7:33 am)
Obviously the Odyssey track record is NOT as good as DC minivans for 1999. There were far more problems reported by Odyssey owners for 1999 than were for DC minivans even though DC outsold Odyssey by many times. Can the Odyssey do better? I certainly hope so as I recommended an Odyssey to my sister and brother-in-law.
I do know of one DC minivan owner who had to have engine work done. It was a 1986 Caravan my sister-in-law inherited from her dad and he got it from a "Fly-By-Night" used car lot. She was the 3rd owner if not 4th or 5th.
Meanwhile, one of my sisters had a 1986 Caravan got used and hers had 170,000 miles with NO problems. John P., a co-worker of mine got a USED Grand Voyager that had 110,000 miles on it when I retired in 1996. Since he moved, I do not know how many more it accumulated with NO problems. He did NOT even have a tune-up and only maintenance he had performed was an oil and oil filter change.
Kurt J. had owned 2 DC minivans he got used and had zero problems. That is why he bought a NEW 2000 Grand Caravan LE. And I could go on and on listing the many friends who love DC minivans and are repeat customers.
Based on the unreliability of 4 Honda Accords owned by people I know (of a total of 7 in 1999), Honda reliability is much less satisfactory than the DC minivan reliability.
Jun 10, 2001 (8:58 am)
Actually i do still have a computer from about 10 years ago, a 286 and a 386, they do make excellent paper weights. =) Yes technology does help make things better, but only if you apply correctly (circular reasoning, I know).
You must think me a Honda fanatic or something. Believe me, I'm not, we had/have Fords, Nissan's, Toyota's, as well as Honda's. I don't work for any car companies nor I do know of any that does so either, so I buy whatever I think is a good buy. As for Tayalan's 1999 Odyssey lemon, what can I say? To me it's only hearsay, I can neither deny nor prove it's validity. EVERYONE makes lemons, some more than others, I don't look at it as a percentage thing but rather as how many actual defective units there are. Percentages mean nothing to those stuck with a lemon. Well also, 99 was a first year model, thus problems (more so) are expected, everyone should know that. To be fair, if you're going to compare a '99 Ody, you should do it to a '01 DC van, right? BTW, the '01 DC van seems to be reporting more troubles as we speak. Again is that expected? Yes, but not because it's a DC, but because it's the first year of a totally new design.
#350 of 7485 HELP ME FIND WHAT I WANT!
Jun 10, 2001 (10:48 am)
I need AWD - ranch property. BUT, I want a minivan that we can sleep in on the road AND I need enough power to pull a fishing boat. I like the way the gear shift is mounted on the steering column of the Grand Caravans/TownCountry, you can a towing package, you can have an engine heater, a roof rack, etc. I WISH these models had an option for a moon roof and a stowable back seat. I don't care what the company says - it is HARD work removing the back seat! SO, is there a minivan out there that has AWD, V6, tow package with a stowable back seat and moonroof? I would also like to have the minivan have a little more ground clearance! BUT, I don't want a 4x4 because of gas mileage! So, HELP!
#352 of 7485 Re: HELP ME FIND WHAT I WANT!
Jun 11, 2001 (9:28 am)
If you are purely looking for "AWD, V6, tow package with a stowable back seat and moonroof" then prepare to be disappointed and check out big SUVs instead. The gas mileage isn't that much worse than a minivan AWD. The higher clearance will get you more places.
Only new AWD minivans out there are Chrysler/Dodge and GM/Chevy. The former doesn't have a stowable back seat and the tow power is 3800 lbs, but it is a great vehicle (I own one);
GM/Chevys are favored by folks who tow bigger stuff, but the vehicle is an old-style RWD truck design and not all that reliable and doesn't offer a stowable back seat.
Removing the split bench Chrysler seat is quick and not difficult; my wife does it when needed.
Have you looked at an MDX?
#353 of 7485 hayneldan -- THANKS
Jun 11, 2001 (10:38 am)
i kinda figured that was the case, but the wording isn't exactly crystal clear. thanks for clearing up the 5% uncertainty i had hanging on the back of my head.
#354 of 7485 TSchramm rebuttal
Jun 25, 2001 (8:13 pm)
Your post stated the difference between 5 stars and 4 stars was DOUBLE the chance of injury with only 4 stars. ACTUALLY,5 stars mean 10% or less chance of injury and 4 stars mean 11 to 20% chance of injury.The difference could be as small as 2%(source Motor Trend May 2001 issue, Crash Safety Ratings, Good Science or Misguided Crusading? page 102)
#356 of 7485 Honda Odyssey vs. "ALL" Chrysler minivans
Jun 26, 2001 (4:42 pm)
Ok, I think a Honda Odyssey is better than a flood damaged 4-cylinder 1985 Dodge Caravan with 3 flat tires, but just barely.
Jun 26, 2001 (9:19 pm)
The "all" was meant to refer to the Voyager, the Caravan, as well as the Town & Country.
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