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You are in the Honda Odyssey
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#3005 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [jipster]
Jan 31, 2005 (12:27 pm)
"Honda Ody won in C&D's 5 Best Trucks.Though the field nominated was fairly weak(i.e Buick Terraza,Chevy Uplander,Dodge Caravan...NOT the Grand or T&C,Pontiac Montana ,Saturn Relay and the Toyota Sienna.)"
Holy smokes, that's more than fairly weak. Almost no one compares the Ody to that subset ... it is always Ody, Sienna, T&C and sometimes Quest. What a weird sorting they picked. BTW, was this rating for the 2005 Ody or 2004? Thanks.
#3006 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [denver5357]
Jan 31, 2005 (1:04 pm)
denver,the rating was for the 2005 Ody.Reported in this months C&D.They did not mention any of the other vehicles( I guess it wasn't a full size comparison test). They just kept singing the praises of the 2005 Ody. "the latest Odyseey is just about the only vehicle of its kind that we regard as rewarding to drive." By saying "rewarding to drive"...are they unconsciously implying they were paid off?
#3008 of 7485 Yeah, that must be it...
Jan 31, 2005 (1:33 pm)
Sounds like the new Odyssey is a crowd pleaser!
Payoffs? Ah...don't think so! Sorry...
#3009 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [denver5357]
Jan 31, 2005 (3:53 pm)
I guess that there was no need to.
C & D June 2004 minivan comparo results:
1.) 2004 Ody(NOT 2005)
2.) 2004 Sienna
3.) 2004 Quest
4.) 2004 DGC SXT
5.) 2004 Freestar
The 2005 Ody would have increase its winning lead further.
#3010 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [jipster]
Jan 31, 2005 (10:03 pm)
"rewarding to drive" = paid off?
#3011 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [macakava]
Jan 31, 2005 (11:37 pm)
Dodge/Honda 2003 compared by C.R. Last year to have data on.
Dodge got 12 Excellents and two above average in 14 different categories.
Honda got 13 Excellents and one above average. I wouldn't call that WAY superior.
#3012 of 7485 Re: CR Versus C&D [marine2]
Feb 01, 2005 (5:13 am)
C R 2005 Buying guide
Ody: 1999 rated -(Average)
Ody: 2000 - 2004 rated _/(Above Average)
DGC/T & C: 1999 rated -(Average)
DGC/T & C: 2000 - 2003 rated X (Below Average)
Let the numbers from a large sampling speak for themselves. It is information like this and others(such as C & D, Edmunds, etc) that one can use to make their buying decisions.
#3014 of 7485 Re: Numbers from large sampling? [macakava]
Feb 01, 2005 (9:11 am)
Problem is CR is afraid to disclose the actual numbers and their written material is often contradictory to the test results. It would be very easy for CR to state the actual numbers of each vehicle they list. IF CR provided these numbers, people would be much better informed. As it is, the biased opinion of CR employees distorts the results.
I read of far more problems with the Odyssey transmissions than DC minivan transmissions here in the Town Hall by real people who own each. I am now afraid to buy a new Odyssey based on reading of the many problems reported in the Town Hall by people who have purchased an Odyssey. My nephew told me his new 2005 Ody EX has a "whistling noise" at speeds 35 MPH and faster.
Most of the complaints about DC are by former owners who may have had a valid complaint and were not satisfied by DC dealers. Most of these were people who wanted a Honda or Toyota minivan but found that neither provided a serious competitor to the Caravan/Voyager, Grand Caravan/Grand Voyager/Town & Country until the first Sienna appeared about 1997 and the current Odyssey appeared as a 1999 model.
Funny that none of the dozens of people I know who bought DC minivans have had any problems. Many are now repeat buyers based on complete satisfication with the Caravan/Voyager and later models from Chrysler which is now DaimlerChrysler.