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You are in the Honda Odyssey
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Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#1618 of 7485 Our daughter was happy to buy our very nice 1999 GC SE
Jul 18, 2002 (7:09 pm)
We were completely satisfied with our loaded 99 GC SE and did not plan to sell or trade for many years. However, our daughter and son in law needed a 2nd vehicle since their 7 year old son was in school and the 4 year old daughter in pre-school. They looked at many vehicles and decided to get a new 2002 Neon.
We went on a test drive and felt cramped with the 4 year old girl in the back seat. The noise level was higher than we prefer so we offered to trade in our 99 GC SE on a new 2002 Chrysler T&C eL if the dealer would sell the 99 GC SE to them for the trade-in we received. They were most pleased to buy an exceptionally nice 99 GC SE with only 37,240 miles on Janury 26, 2002. (After all the 4 of them had gone to Disneyland with us 4 times in the past 2 years and KNEW the 99 GC SE was an outstanding vehicle).
The 2002 T&C eL does not have all the nice features of the 99 GC SE such as Infinity 200 watt 10 speaker sound with CD and Cassette, Built in child safety seat in right middle Quad, Cast Wheels but is even quieter than the very quiet 99 GC SE. Triple Zone Temperature is even nicer than Dual Zone where the rear passengers got the temperature set by the driver. Instead of heat/cooling vents at middle and rear of both front doors as in the 99 GC SE, the 02 T&C eL has only heating vents under the front seat in addition to the 4 overhead A/C vents in ceiling overhead middle and rear row seats and also has the rear heater in front of right rear wheel. The front fan is even more powerful than was the excellent 5 speed fan of the 99 GC SE. We very seldom use the rear A/C even crossing the Mojave Desert of California since the A/C in each is very powerful with very cold air.
Yes, we would have purchased a 2002 Havasu Blue Honda Odyssey had one been available in January as we were willing to try another van. I would like the 240 HP with 5 Speed Automatic, Magic Seat and flexible 2nd row seating but would have needed to give up the very nice Overhead Console with outside temperature/Compass/Trip Computer, Triple Zone Temperature, and 50/50 split fold and tumble 3rd row. As stated before, we feel the Odyssey and Grand Caravan/Town & Country are of equal value with each having unique advantages.
Jul 18, 2002 (10:34 pm)
Anybody know of any custom minivan shops? I want that A-team look for my van. Here is the real reason I bought my 2000 Grand Caravan over the Honda, it has that cool roof top spoiler! If only I had a bunch of orange and black paint...
What van do you think jumps better, the Honda or the DC? The magic seat would be nice for loading welding gear in one minute, and then Murdoc the next. But over the long hauls when Mr. T refused to fly, the leather and 3 zone climate control of the T&C might be the ticket. See it's even hard for the A-team to choose, I still love it when a plan comes together.
#1620 of 7485 Let Me get this straight
Jul 19, 2002 (2:45 am)
The Odyssey has
1. An engine
2. Spotty Reliability during the first year
3. A disappearing seat (I'd rather have a disappearing finance payment)
4. A noisy gas tank and inaccurate gas guage
5. Four Wheels
6. Some Windows, seats and a steering Wheel
The DC Van has:
1. An Engine
2. Spotty Reliability However new generation much better.
3. Split removeable third seat
4. A gas tank and gas guage
5. Four Wheels, (give or take one or two)
6. Some Windows, seats and a steering Wheel
Sounds like a wash to me.
Neither Car has:
5 speed manual transmission with chrome shifter topped by a cue ball shifter knob
chrome door handles with real push buttons
Available factory flames or woodie treatment
Upcoming turbo model and convertible model
Advantage the Microvan
Thank You very much
#1621 of 7485 Van Comparisons by bdaddy
Jul 19, 2002 (3:58 am)
Make board DC vs. Honda vs. Mazda vs. Kia vs. GM vs. Ford vs. Toyota. Or call it All Vans - comparisons
A better name for the board would be My Van is better than your Van as this is what it amounts too.
#1623 of 7485 dmatthews 3
Jul 19, 2002 (4:11 am)
If there were such a forum, some of the obvious comparisons would be between Honda, the Longer version of DC, and Windstar vs. the shorter DC , the MPV , the Nissan Quest, and Toyota Sienna. BTW Longer is better.
Jul 19, 2002 (6:02 am)
Acceleration so good Ody that back end go low when floor it. . Go from 7 inch to 5 inch from road, even when full.
Headlights ODY much better than DC. I put aftermarket Hella bulbs in 96 DC. Still have to drive no more 60 at night or outdrive head light. Not so ODY. Go likety split at night.
I like crkeehn neon, too. Have PT Cruiser Package. Bet factory flame job all same.
Jul 19, 2002 (7:14 am)
I say that the best mini-van out right now is the Toyota Sieanna. I like Japanese cars so that is probably why I am comparing it to the the MPV,the Quest, and the Oddysey. The quest is just old and out of date (it still looks like the Mercury Villager), the MPV probably has the best performance but it just seems a little small inside compared to a lot of vans, the Oddysey is ok I guess, it just looks kind of ugly and I have heard some pretty bad stuff about it. The Sieanna isn't perfect, but it still is better than most mini vans out there. It's not too expensive, it has really nice looks, performance is pretty good for a van, and has plenty of features. It is my personal favorite.
#1626 of 7485 Future of this Forum
Jul 19, 2002 (7:37 am)
I predict that the future of this forum will be something like this.
"2022 Odyssey much fast very good. Better much bad 1989 DC van. Me good you bad. Me big Sequoia scare woman now all alone."
The sad part is that although I think the Odyssey is a good van I would be hesitant to ever own one just because I wouldn't want to be associated with the ody owners on these boards. The original gloating on this board was bad enough but now it has literally broken down to a comparison of manhood and mocking others. It is kind of like playing king of the mountain. The winner gets to stand all alone and look down on everybody else. Some day the king might realize that he is all alone and playing with himself.
Jul 19, 2002 (7:38 am)
Question: Why did you trade your old DC minivan into the dealer, then have them resell to your daughter and son-in-law? You should have sold it direct to them. Then negotiate like crazy for your new minivan w/o trade. I'll bet you both could have come out better cost wise.
Had you already done your deal before your daughter decided to buy your old van?
It's usually better to keep the trade-in out of any new vehicle purchase until after you've got the dealer committed to the lowest price you can get without trade. That way you can figure out what the new van costs, and also what the dealer is willing to give you on the trade, rather than combining the two issues. By the way, Edmunds has a good tool for determining ballpark used vehicle prices, either as trades, private sales or purchased from a dealer.