Last post on Mar 23, 2008 at 7:43 AM
You are in the Honda Odyssey
What is this discussion about?
Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#1514 of 7485 Think Odyssey and Chrysler minivan have very few problem now
Jul 15, 2002 (8:37 pm)
4aodge write no problem 2000 Chrysler Town & Country LX. No problem 2001 Chrysler PT Cruiser. No problem 1998 Chrysler minivan. Hersbird no problem 2000 Grand Caravan. Swampcollie now own 3rd Chrysler minivan no problem.
Ody01 no problem 2001 Taffeta White Odyssey EX now have 16000 miles. Pat84, whambam, many Odyssey owner no problem.
Steve (Host) no problem Nissan Quest minivan.
Read many problem some brands minivan ( Windstar Headgasket, Sienna Sludge, GM many problem, etc.)
Odyssey and Chrysler tie best minivan now.
Jul 15, 2002 (8:41 pm)
You didn't mention my '89 Voyager Where is Adam anyway - away for the summer cruising in his Caravan?
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#1516 of 7485 Young poster not know Hersbird's
Jul 15, 2002 (9:05 pm)
great uncle, name Humphrey Yogurt, appear in old movie Treasure Sienna Madre.
Sienna owner try tell Humphrey Sienna tie, Humphrey say "There ain't no lousy stinkin' ties!"
This also apply Ody vs. DC.
Jul 15, 2002 (10:36 pm)
Hello, everyone. Long time no chat. I have indeed been doing alot of summer cruising in the 2000 Town & Country which just passed 45k miles with no problems. We tried to get into a new 2002 Town & Country LXi the other week but we still owe too much on the current van to get the deal we wanted. Oh well, we are still enjoying the comfort and convienence of our current van.
The Town & Country Limited AWD is in a class of its own as far as minivans go. No other van on the market offers such a blend of luxury and utility, especially considering the benefits of AWD traction. However, the AWD Limited is very expensive and also gets poor gas mileage, at least from what I've heard.
Imo454, I hope you enjoy your Town & Country as much as we have enjoyed ours.
#1518 of 7485 There are no ties, just choices.
Jul 16, 2002 (3:25 am)
In the beginning there was the Dodge....
(Actually it was almost In the Beginning there was the Ford, but Henry Ford II didn't believe in that strange idea that Lee Iaccoca and his designers had, that the world was ready for a smaller van.)
When Lee went to Chrysler, he found a company ready to accept new concepts, especially if they could be spun off of the venerable K Car chassis. Thus was born the Caravan/Voyager. Suddenly those puppies were everywhere and the factory couldn't keep up with the demand. Ford and GM, sensing a good thing, leapt into action and came up with the (drum roll please)
Aerostar and Astro
Oops. They came out with capable vans that strangely enough drove like trucks. Unfortunately, the buyers wanted vans that drove like cars. Back to the drawing board.
As time went on, the market shook down and the various manufacturers took their first stumbling steps into the world of minivans.
We are fortunate now, to be presented with a group of second or third generation minivans. As the various manufacturers tested the waters, their initial offerings seemed to be "not quite right" Honda's initial Odyssey and Toyota's Previa both fell into that category. The manufacturers studied the field carefully and released their later offerings which pretty consistently hit the target.
Today we benefit from their work. We have a series of minivans, all very capable and all offering very different features. We have a choice of sizes, performance, features and costs. Assembly quality seems to be getting better right down the road, and yes we do have Honda and Toyota to thank for that, the increased competition means that everyone has to try harder. I really do believe that DC is also trying harder. The release of the PT Cruiser proved that DC (Or at least DC Mexico) could release a solid, well assembled vehicle which is in effect it's third year of production and proving to be trouble free. Whether you call it a tall car or microvan, the entry of Toyota/Pontiac into the fray indicates that the consumer is again presented with a new level of choice.
Jul 16, 2002 (5:03 am)
As I remember, your parents traded a DC minivan with 70K miles on it, on their current T&C. Now your parents are looking at trading in the T&C with 45K miles on it. Unfortunately, the T&C doesn't have a high enough trade in value. A fact of life reverenced many times here.
I got more mileage (48K miles) than your T&C has, on the OEM Firestone tires on my Odyssey. BTW My Odyssey is worth more on trade in than I owe on it.
One of the biggest differences between DC and Honda minivans,is retention of value. Even DC apparently knows this.
#1520 of 7485 4adodge by pat84
Jul 16, 2002 (5:25 am)
Well said, thats why we were able to TRADE our 01 in and get such I high price 24k on a EX. Too bad we won't do that good on the Avalanche but being I get a GM discount, 2500 rebate, and the money from our GM mastercard took that 38K down to about 26K. Not bad for a vehicle that has about every toy you can get on it.
#1521 of 7485 dmathews
Jul 16, 2002 (5:44 am)
What was your mileage on the Ody when you traded?
#1522 of 7485 "a lot" is two words, not one
Jul 16, 2002 (7:49 am)
I have noticed that many (a lot?) of people write "alot" as a single word, which it's not. Then I tried Edmund's spelling checker and it fails to call "alot" an error. What dictionary are you people using?
Jul 16, 2002 (8:26 am)
Your entirely rite.
We don't give demerits for "chat typo" around here, but I'll mention the spell check thing to the programmers. Also, you can add words to the spell check for your own use.
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