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Dodge Caravan, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Voyager, Van
#130 of 7485 Caravan Transmissions
Mar 19, 2001 (8:44 am)
I currently own a 1994 Nissan Quest and have been very satisfied with it. Since Nissan is discontinuing the Quest and recent reports on the 2001 are not good,I am now thinking of buying a Dodge Caravan but have a question.I know three Caravan owners who have had to replace the transmissions. These cars had less than 80,000 miles on them and were from different years. Is this a problem with Caravans in general?
#131 of 7485 3.5L 230hp motor = R.I.P.
Mar 19, 2001 (3:05 pm)
Reading in the March 19 edition of AutoWeek that DC has officially put the 230hp, 3.5L motor for 2001 Chyrsler minivans 'under review' and will not offer it this spring as promised, which I think is Daimler's way of telling us "it's cancelled." With the financial state of the company being what it is right now it apparently can't justify the extra costs involved to offer the 3.5L option.
Mar 19, 2001 (3:42 pm)
There was a piece in this Saturday's local newspaper indicating that DaimlerChrysler has officially canceled the 3.5L engine for the minivan lines. They are focusing on keeping prices down and have said they can't justify offering that model right now.
Mar 19, 2001 (3:55 pm)
"These cars had less than 80,000 miles on them and were from different years. Is this a problem with Caravans in general? "
It was, tho Consumer Reports's surveys seem to show that the problem went away about 3 years ago.
#135 of 7485 hotspur--you missed my point
Mar 19, 2001 (6:15 pm)
Like I said, I'm glad you like your Odyssey but I wasn't the one who said the Odyssey couldn't hold a candle to it, but as long as we're on the topic, it surely can't in the luxury department. The reliability factors and what not are another story though. Back to what I was saying, I merely said in my post that I valued my luxury features over a better resale van 5 years down the road, which comes with only average features when compared to my T&C. Yes, the Odyssey is valued better by most of the car magazine, but am I losing sleep over it? No. Remember, these are only minivans. Anyway, I can see why the magazines would value the Odyssey, which has a good price at MSRP, an array of standard features for your normal consumer, and a fairly stable reputation. The DC's as you know have unproven reliability in some areas and carry a higher price. I don't care though if the T&C was the worst selling minivan in the world though because it is still the van that meets my needs in terms of ride and luxury. After having 2 previous Chrysler minivans that have all been perfect, I had no reason to drop down to an Odyssey (going from a T&C LXi)and that is why I ended up with the new LTD. So sorry, but you can be sure that I'm dealing with the fact that the Odyssey is the more favored van in the magazines just fine. I on the other hand don't let the magazines opinions affect what I really like and look for in a car. I know I have the best van for me, popular or not, and that is my '01 T&C LTD. You go on liking your Odyssey, but it is not the BEST minivan because there is no such thing. We all look for different things in our vehicles and which ever one we end up with will probably be the BEST to us the people who bought the particular make, but there's a good chance that to other people in the world it isn't and you know what? I'm just fine with that.
#136 of 7485 comparisons and price
Mar 19, 2001 (8:40 pm)
I don't know where there's much price comparison between the Odyssey and the T&C or Caravan with "luxury" items....they are separated by thousands of dollars. Sure, I wanted a compass and (thankfully) realized that this gadget wasn't worth getting a Chrysler or Chevy minivan for. (BTW, paid $50 and got a compass/temp gadget for the Odyssey.) And leather? Give me aftermarket and _full_ leather, not just "seating surfaces."
My family has owned three Hondas: a 93 Civic, a 95 Accord and a 00 Odyssey. We still own all three and haven't had any problems. Tenth of a second difference in the quarter mile isn't an issue. My main concern is reliablity, and I can tell you, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of "Chrysler minivan" is "failed transmission."
For me, anecdotal stories about a few friends who had problems with their Hondas can't compare with the volume of posts I've read over the past couple of years regarding Chrysler products.
#137 of 7485 hotspur and garcia2ko
Mar 19, 2001 (9:12 pm)
Do NOT take my word about unreliable or problem Hondas. Go read in the Odyssey Problems Forums or the Town Hall "Real World Trade-In Values" and read about unreliable or problem Hondas.
phil2w has stated quite clearly in the Town Hall forum quoted above that his 99 Ody is a piece of junk. Might not be normal for a Honda, but who can argue with his facts? or Tayalynn who had a 99 Ody lemon?
Of course there are more accounts of problem DC minivans...they have sold millions more than the amount of minivans sold by Honda.
#138 of 7485 DC does not need the 3.5L V6
Mar 19, 2001 (9:15 pm)
since the 2001 DC 3.8L V6 has more horsepower AND torque than any other minivan....and does NOT require more costly premium fuel to get the power.
Mar 20, 2001 (5:16 am)
That may be true, but neither is the engine as refined as those from some of the competition - numbers aren't everything.