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You are in the Honda Odyssey
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Honda Odyssey, Van
Jan 26, 2005 (11:45 am)
If I had the same experience you have had, I wouldn't even be inclined to buy a Honda lawnmower, much less another Honda Odyssey!
We are still on the original transmission on our 1996 Caravan at 80K miles, and other than a few minor recalls and two major air conditioning repairs, almost all maintenance has been the routine preventative sort; one set of brakes, one set of tires, two batteries, oil changes, one transmission fluid change, two or three radiator flush and fills, and one fairly minor transmission output shaft seal leak.
This good performance from a brand of minivan that is supposedly below average in reliability.
#3936 of 6484 Which go's to show...
Jan 26, 2005 (12:34 pm)
You never know.
I've NEVER heard of an Odyssey going through transmissions like that! I have to wonder if there is another side to the story, an abusive teenage driver (like I was)or if it's been used like a beast of burden, pulling trailers etc.
I have no idea.
I can see maybe one rebuilt where the job wasn't done right causing early failure, but THREE?
Even so, anything is possible. I could win the lottery tonight too.
#3937 of 6484 Is this great, or what?
Jan 26, 2005 (12:46 pm)
It is always someone else's fault!!! It can't be Honda's fault. I sell them and know them very well! Seats too hard? Some people just like to complain. Doors won't shut unless you give them a good slam? People should work out more and build up their bodies.
3 Transmissions replaced? It must be abuse! Ok!
Almost 4000 posts on the Honda Ody Problems board. Naw, it's just my imagination.
#3938 of 6484 I didn't say that...
Jan 26, 2005 (12:58 pm)
I've never heard of an Odyssey that required four transmission replacements.
I think that's what I said while just considering that there just possibly could be factors contributing to the high failure rate.
Can you even consider such a possibility?
When I was in high school I distroyed the transmission on my parent's Buick one night when I was out street racing it.
I managed to limp it into our garage. Neither my parents, nor the Buick dealer could understand why it had failed at I think, 30,000 miles.
I wish you wouldn't put words into my mouth.
Jan 26, 2005 (1:31 pm)
You said that maybe there is another side to the story, like an abusive teenage driver. I am not putting words in your mouth, I think that you are putting your foot in your mouth.
You said three transmissions replaced, now you are saying 4 transmissions replaced, which is it? I don't want to put words in your mouth!
You shoot the messenger (Ody owner) everytime they point out something they don"t like (problems) and back (defend) Honda. Give it a break. People come here to find help not shift the blame to them. The only thing they are guilty of is giving Honda alot of money and now they are sorry and want help.
Jan 26, 2005 (1:52 pm)
Once the original one goes, I stop counting. I never had a good feeling about any rebuilt tranny (at least since the days of powerglides and other simple units). To me, failing replacements is a problem with the rebuild supplier, not neccessarily the Hondy tranny design itself.
Now, having the originals go out prematurely is a different story, and one reason I will probably get the ESC for our '05.
Jan 26, 2005 (2:04 pm)
Only 79k and 4 transmissions, you wouldn't have to change the transmission fluid while owning the van, that would have been paid for by Honda while replacing the transmissions.
LOOK at all the money you saved on maintance!
#3943 of 6484 Re: Bright spot! [just4fun2]
Jan 26, 2005 (3:09 pm)
Well said, just4fun2;-).
Regarding suggestions about us using our van as a beast of burden... it does not tow anything, it is driven only by responsible adults who will occassionally haul people in the passenger seats and sometimes a couple of 2x4s from Home Depot.
Regarding why look at an '05 Honda... I am trying to give Honda a chance to make this right. I don't think I can expect them to purchase back my '00 Ody at retail and then give me a Sienna (or whatever) at invoice. I'm going to get nothing from Honda if I'm not at least somewhat loyal. If I get nothing from Honda, I have no reason to be loyal.
Regarding the transmission replacements... we had the first one done after 2 weeks, the second one after 1 year (probably 20k miles), and this last one after 79k miles. Until this last one, they have all been new transmissions.
#3944 of 6484 Re: pezman [badgerfan]
Jan 26, 2005 (3:29 pm)
I whole heartedly agree! That's why a Chrysler-Dodge-Plymouth has not darkened my driveway since the first one. Got a 1984 Plymouth Voyager and at 7000 miles, it ate the timing chain, silent shaft cover, timing chain cover, and had to have three oil changes to get the debris out. Then I had to sit and wait for a oil pump to be shipped from Japan. Tires wore funny (seems they all did back then. Dealer said it was the tires, Goodyear said it was the van.) At 60,000 miles the speedometer failed. They put a new one in but couldn't set it to the correct millage so at trade in time, my 11,000 mile van was valued at 71,000 miles even though I had documentation. The the steering box failed. Then the something else failed (forget what now but remember ti cost about $400.) Oh yeah, and the brake calipers that ate the rotor up front when the brake cylinder stuck at 50,000. Heard it was a common problem at around 50,000 miles on CDP products back then. Dealer said it because Chrysler used a "plastic like" material in the brake cylinder instead of steel like Ford and Chevy.
Like you said, I wouldn't buy a Chrysler hubcap now much less a Chrysler vehicle. And after my problems with Chevy, I am looking at the Honda Ody to get away from American trash.
My point is that every car maker has problems and a case can be made for any model.But overall I beleive that when the Ody gets though its initial problems, it will be a fine vehicle, and that's when I may buy one.