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#9788 of 30569 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring with RES & NAV
Jun 04, 2005 (5:18 am)
I would like to thank everyone in this form and especially Edmunds.com for hosting this site.
Below is a breakdown of my purchase agreement for a 2005 Honda Odyssey Touring with Rear Entertainment System and Navigation in Gold Metallic.
Negotiated Price: $35,470
Destination Charge: 515
Dealer Prep: 499
Final Price: $36490.50
Plus Tax & Tag
This works out to be about a 6 percent profit over the dealer cost, which ends up being $2017 profit for the dealer after he receives his holdback. I emailed 12 local South Florida dealers and received quotes from half of them ranging from $1000 over MSRP to $36,000.
I did have a final price quote for $36,000, but it was in the wrong color. It seems that the dealers are willing to sell the silver with black interior and the red with ivory interior $500 cheaper down here in South Florida.
I was in and out of the dealer in two hours which included 45 minutes to remove the plastic shrink wrap and wash the vehicle. I would also like to add that I used Jeff Ostroff's www.carbuyingtips.com, Jeff is a self proclaimed consumer advocate, and has been running CarBuyingTips.com since 1997. Thank you Jeff for all you've done for the consumer.
#9789 of 30569 EX-L with DVD RES and NAV in DC Metro area
Jun 04, 2005 (8:33 am)
Just wanted to share my purchasing experience. Hopefully someone else will find it as helpful as I've found these kinds of posts others have submitted.
I live in Northern Virginia. I started the process by faxing or e-mailing a bunch of dealers in the DC metro area, as far north as the Baltimore area and south to Richmond.
Of the approximately dozen dealers that responded, by far the worst experience I had was with Landmark Honda. The sales rep there demonstrated all of the characteristics that give car salespeople a bad name. Despite repeated requests for an actual quote, I never received one. His e-mails and voicemails were a desperate and pathetic attempt to get me to come in ("Big Sale this week" or "We want to help you save money"...yeah, sure ya do...) so he could sell me a model I wasn't interested it. Landmark Honda clearly has no clue what "Internet Sales" means. I've never had a positive experience with a Rosenthal dealer, and this only reinforces my negative perception of their entire organization.
All of the other dealers who responded did so fairly quickly (in almost all cases within 24 hours and some within a couple of hours!). Of note, I had good experiences with Leesburg Honda (very responsive to my initial quote and my follow-up questions, and was up-front about not having one in-stock) and Hagerstown Honda (very good initial price and responsive to my e-mails). Also, like others here, I had a positive experience with Pohanka of Salisbury. They offered a quote that was only $125 more than the lowest quote and were very responsive. I also like that they ask up front if I prefer to communicate strictly via e-mail.
We wound up purchasing the van from Mechanicsville Honda, near Richmond. They offered the lowest price ($32,364, excluding taxes, tags, fees), but the primary reason for going with them over Pohanka of Salisbury was that they had a color we preferred. We drove down yesterday and took delivery of the vehicle. I don't see how it could have been a better experience. We worked out all the details over the phone, they had the car ready for us when we got there, they took the time to show us the car and demonstrate the features, and we got through the paperwork quickly with no pressure add-ons at all. It was truly an enjoyable experience!
The price breakdown was as follows:
EX-L with DVD RES and NAV: $32,364, incl. destination ($1,000 over invoice)
Cargo Tray: $96.60
Dealer Fee: $279
Tax (3% in VA): $982.18
Title & Tags: $54.50 (which included "hard" tags, not 30-day tags)
Total OTD Price: $33.775.93
In-general, the dealers close-in seemed to be less willing to come down much off MSRP and the dealers further away were more aggresive on their prices. I was more than happy to drive 90 minutes to save $1,000+.
#9790 of 30569 Re: EX-L with DVD RES and NAV in DC Metro area [odbuyer]
Jun 04, 2005 (10:13 am)
Thanks for that summary. I'm out by Dulles and always wondered about the Richmond area dealers. Isn't there a West Broad Honda or something? And I agree--how does R'thal sell any vehicles.
Just curious--if you had any immediate initial quality problems, would you go back to the selling dealer or try more local
#9791 of 30569 Re: EX-L with DVD RES and NAV in DC Metro area [lumbar]
Jun 04, 2005 (12:40 pm)
Yeah, in addition to Mechanicsville, I sent a request to West Broad Honda and Pearson Honda (aka Richmond Honda), but I never got a response from West Broad or Pearson.
I forgot to mention Bill Page Honda. They are the closest Honda dealer to our house and it was the only other Honda dealership we visited (other than Mechanicsville). The gentlemen who helped us was very friendly and knowledgeable and not at all pushy, but they simply didn't have any of the EX-L w/DVD & NAV in stock, and didn't have one on allocation that wasn't already spoken for, so we didn't even get to the point of getting a quote from them.
I was wondering the same thing about what I'd do if we have a problem. I think I would take it to a local dealer unless it is something serious or in dispute. I've heard good things about Bill Page's service, and while I might not receive quite the same treatment I would if had I purchased the vehicle there, I suspect they're smart enough to know that they at least want to earn my service business.
#9792 of 30569 Re: 05 Odyssey Mileage Issue: Need Help! [utahclimber]
Jun 04, 2005 (9:57 pm)
We bought our 05 EX Odyssey with cloth one week ago and have been getting 26.5 mpg which was mainly 400 miles of highway driving around the Bay area CA and Central Valley CA (with the A/C on) that also included intermittent 15 minute idling stops with the A/C on so my wife could change and feed our 2 month old in comfort and privacy. We're very pleased and happy with the Odyssey.
Also, for those in the Bay Area looking for good deals, the two lowest priced dealers I found were El Cerrito Honda (where we bought) and Marin Honda. Both ended up offering at or below invoice pricing which was surprising because we started out at a Honda dealer near where we live and they wanted MSRP + $2K markup. My EX with cloth was 25,530 and included wheel locks and the protection package (door edge guards and fender guards which I wasn't crazy about but they're growing on me). After I bought, Marin offered the same vehicle for about 25,290 (memorial day special) but I never went to see it because Marin is quite a bit further of a drive and I have to assume their price did not include any accessory add-ons. Check craigslist.org under "Odyssey" as Marin's internet sales guy advertizes there- talked to him and he sounds nice but haven't dealt with him. In my opinion, you're wasting your time with the rest of the dealers out there- virtually every one of them told me the best prices I was quoted were either unrealistic or somehow misleading.
Also, while I'm on the subject, I would caution people about the Costco Auto Purchase program. I was offered to purchase an EX with cloth at $1000 over invoice through Costco's Northern CA Honda dealer. When I presented my best quotes to the salesman, he consulted his manager and promptly lowered the price to $500 over invoice. Problem was that this was still $800 higher than my best quote and they refused to budge after that and had the nerve to tell me there was something wrong with my quote and that it might not include the destination price. I was furious and ended up buying our EX the next day through El Cerrito at a substantial savings. So much for Costco's purchasing power advantage-- I still ended up having to haggle prices with their dealer. Costco is "investigating," but as others have warned a little homework can save you a lot more money than going with Costco.
Another FYI- if you're financing, check out USE Credit Union (usecu.com) out of San Diego. They offered me 3.79 for 60mo's but they have programs as low as 3.24 for 48mo. No I don't work for them, I just like saving money... and those are great rates in today's rate environment.
#9793 of 30569 2005 Odyssey EX-L-RES and Plus
Jun 05, 2005 (5:42 am)
I was a little surprised to see some of the prices out in the East. We bought our 2005 EX w/RES just 3 weeks ago in the Chicago area, the van came with a couple of dealship added options (i.e. Rear Mud guards, Lifetime Paint Protection package, and one more thing I can't remember..); the OTD price we paid was $30,195.00. Good Luck in getting your Odyssey soon.
#9794 of 30569 EX-L w DVD in Los Angeles area
Jun 05, 2005 (6:11 am)
Really appreciate the info posted on this site so wanted to share our experience. We got our EX-L w DVD on Friday after about three weeks of shopping online. I emailed at least 15 dealerships and got initial quotes anywhere from $29,932 to over 31K including destination and doc. fee but net of tax and license. Soon realized we were at a disadvantage because the color we wanted (midnight blue pearl) has been very scarce. Several dealers said they could get it for me by trading with another dealer but that never panned out, either because the vehicle never materialized or there were unwanted extra accessories, etc. I had read elsewhere that it's generally not a good idea to get dealer trades.
Gardena Honda promptly gave me a price $29,932 and were very straight with me. I would have bought from them but we just couldn't find the color.
Robertson Honda in North Hollywood initially quoted me $30,186. I replied I'd consider at $29,932. The internet manager was very straight about what colors he had or was getting and was the ONLY dealer who said he actually had a midnight blue model coming in. I was skeptical and hadn't checked back with him until he sent me an email Thursday last week. I think it was a generic automatically generated email as he didn't say anything about the blue car, but when I emailed him back he replied the car was in. I asked for his price and he gave the $29,932.
I went to Robertson Honda Friday and signed the papers. The car had some extra accessories (mudguards and roof rack crossbars), but to their credit they didn't try to get me to pay any extra for them. Total out the door $32,667. The internet manager followed me home to deliver the vehicle. He is a good guy and respects the internet buyer's time. Maybe we could have got a better deal but the time involved in finding the color was getting ridiculous. We are happy.
#9796 of 30569 Re: 2005 Odyssey EX-L-RES and Plus [rsht]
Jun 05, 2005 (10:14 am)
If it's ODT price for EXL-RES then this is the lowest price I've seen so far for this van. I guess it's much below invoice. I'm also in Chicagoland market looking for the same van. Can you please post the name of the dealership? What was the price of the vehicle including destination but excluding taxes and other fees? Thanks.
#9797 of 30569 Re: EX-L w DVD in Los Angeles area [wdpl]
Jun 05, 2005 (3:52 pm)
I bought a sagebrush pearl (what color is that anyway???a kinda greenish/blushish/grayish thing)EX-L with RES at Rock Honda in Fontana for 29,575.00 + 40 doc fee. Then of course there's the tax and registration. They were easy to deal with and had no issues. I did get a offer from OC honda world for invoice if I could wait 3 weeks for a car to come in(couldn't do it LOL). Also Riverside Honda was invoice + 300.00. Hope this helps.