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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [chrispina] by invoiceplease
Apr 12, 2005 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: chrispina (Apr 12, 2005 5:44 pm)

Classic Honda in Round Rock did not impress me at all on my 3 hour visit today. They took the keys to my car and sent somebody off to test drive it, and came back with a trade-in value that was pretty good, actually quite a bit over blue-book trade-in. So I thought, this isn't going to be so bad.
 
Then, their starting price was a couple hundred dollars OVER MSRP. I laughed, and said I wanted to pay $500 over invoice, less the trade-in value. They told me they had to make at least $3400 in profit or they wouldn't sell the car. After the standard sales manager ping-pong match, which took quite a while, because the sales manager's calculator appeared to be broken, it took him about 15 minutes to add up the same numbers I had, over and over again. Eventually the "must have" profit became $2400.
 
Then they started making noises about the trade-in value on my car, which they had already given to me, and how they might have to rethink that trade-in value. I told them I would like my car keys back (which they had kept someone else in the dealership for the last hour or so for no apparent reason, other than keeping me from leaving). They said that surely we could work something out if I would just pay a bit more, or take less for the trade-in.
 
So, to be clear, they wanted me to pay $2400 over invoice, on a fully loaded car, plus they wanted $895 extra on top of that for the "paint protection" package which really amount to nothing buy some tape pinstripes and a wax job, plus, they wanted to back off the trade-in value they had already given me earlier.
 
I asked them to bring me my keys AGAIN. They wanted to call their sales manager yet again (I never even met him, he wasn't lowly enough to honor me with his presence), and ask if he could do anything, seeing as how they wanted to make me happy. I said, you'll make me happy if you sell me the car, without the paint protection, just as I asked for it 2 hours and 45 minutes ago, but I am willing to pay $1000 over invoice, with the trade-in value on the car that you offered me originally. No, sorry, we just can't do that.
 
Bring me my keys please, so I can go to another dealer. (There are 5 within a 50 mile radius of my home). A little more humming about being reasonable, at which point I had taken enough and said that if I wasn't given the keys to my car immediately I would call the police and report it stolen, at which point I finally got them and left, after asking for them all those times.
 
I wouldn't buy a car from them for any amount of money now. I highly recommend anyone considering a Honda to look elsewhere.
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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [invoiceplease] by chrispina
Apr 12, 2005 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: invoiceplease (Apr 12, 2005 6:26 pm)

i'm sorry you had such a bad experience. i took my trade-in to carmax. they offered about $1000 more than i was hoping for. the guys at usaa said that carmax pays more for trade-ins than the dealer will.
 
i didn't want the crappy pinstripe and stuff either. i told them to take it off and that i wasn't paying for it. no problem. i was the woman with the noisy baby who was there all afternoon.
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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [invoiceplease] by sebring95
Apr 13, 2005 (4:19 am)
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Replying to: invoiceplease (Apr 12, 2005 6:26 pm)

Always give the dealer your Valet or spare key when they want to "take it for a drive". The holding the keys scam is the oldest in the book. Sometimes they'll say they lost them, that way you're not as likely to call the cops. Sometimes they'll "misplace" your car too.
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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [invoiceplease] by b_rad
Apr 13, 2005 (5:13 am)
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Replying to: invoiceplease (Apr 12, 2005 6:26 pm)

Best price near Austin I found was at David McDavid Honda in Frisco north of the DFW area and in Waco at Greg May Honda. I went with Greg May and was able to do everything over the phone and by fax. Had to wait a couple of weeks to get the color we wanted but no games (yes I still had to negotiate some) and only had to drive an hour and half to pick it up. It saved me $1600 from the best deal that any Austin and surrounding dealer would make. The dealership that played the most HEAD games was First Texas Honda in trying to deal with the internet sales guy. He could not answer a straight question without turning everything around or talking bad about all the other dealers by basically calling them a bunch of crooks.
We ended up at $263 over invoice and were willing to wait 3 weeks for the right color to arrive. They also matched internet prices on accessories that we wanted from the parts department.
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Apr 13, 2005 (6:45 am)
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Re: EXL DVD & NAV in NJ [rsas] by egw
Apr 13, 2005 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: rsas (Apr 03, 2005 6:00 pm)

Hi,
What dealership was this?
Thaniks
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Re: It's done: Bought my EX-L RES over the weekend in MA [nhguy] by daddyd
Apr 13, 2005 (12:39 pm)
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Replying to: nhguy (Mar 30, 2005 9:07 pm)

Yes it does (did).
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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [chrispina] by invoiceplease
Apr 13, 2005 (2:30 pm)
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Replying to: chrispina (Apr 12, 2005 7:34 pm)

Strange, went to carmax this morning, and their price was $100 less than I was offered at the dealer in RR. Still wasn't bad, no problem there.
 
I hope you didn't get held up too badly on the Odyssey, because after calling a dozen dealerships today, I found three that had the EXACT model and color choice I was interested in available, one of which wanted $600 more than Classic, after telling me that since I lived in a "high-demand" area they knew they could charge more for it. Bye, thanks.
 
The other two however offered prices over the phone $1000 *under* the "take it or leave it price" from Classic. I finally settled on a dealer that is about a half hour from my home, for $1000 over invoice, which is about the best I think can be accomplished for this car, especially with the DVD and NAV. The salesperson was very informative, helpful, and in general 1000% more pleasant to work with than the day before in RR.
 
One dealer told me that they charge full MSRP for the touring model with those options, another $1000 under invoice, the best "first offer over the phone" from an internet sales guy in Centex, Dallas, San Antonio or Houston was $1400 over invoice. To refresh, Classic wanted $3400, and acted like I was a criminal when the came down to $2400 over invoice. So, I saved $1400 over that, *AND* do not have to wait 4-6 weeks for the car to show up and worry about them hassling me on the trade-in value when the time comes.
 
Anyway, hope others will at least be helped by this.
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Re: 2005 Odyssey Touring w/o RES NAV - austin, tx [sebring95] by invoiceplease
Apr 13, 2005 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: sebring95 (Apr 13, 2005 4:19 am)

Oh, I did give them the spare key, with nothing on it but the alarm fob and the door key. Either way, as soon as they pulled that, no deal was going to ever happen. If it had gone on any longer, it would have gotten ugly. That's the kind of thing there should be a law against.
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Re: Searching in the Midwest [dkb2] by cccompson
Apr 13, 2005 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: dkb2 (Apr 12, 2005 5:50 pm)

I wouldn't be at all concerned about buying out of town - dealers are paid by Honda for warranty work and their service departments don't care where it was purchased.
 
If you can buy an EX-L R&N at $500 over invoice, you should do so as it is the most difficult model to get.
 
There are plenty of competitive dealers in Ohio, especially in the NE area. There have been many posts attesting to good deals at Jack Matia in Elyria, Jay in Cleveland, Park in Akron, and College Hills in Wooster to name only a few.
 
I bought my Touring R&N at Hugh White in my hometown of Columbus in February for invoice and they included $400 in accessories at that price.

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