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Replying to: zaphod1 (Apr 08, 2005 5:29 pm) What a complete snob!!!! Who are you to judge how much is enough for any profession? For your information, I know dozens of college educated people who struggle to tie their own shoe laces, and yet they make 6 figure incomes working 40 hour weeks, and having lunch with their friends on the company expense account!! Yet you say $100 seems a bit much when it comes to a product that can retail for up to $40,000 with many more times the computing power of your top of the line PC, safety features that save lives and ensure you and yours get to where you are going in a comfortable and timely fashion. I can assure you, many of his sales are of the $100 (before tax) variety, I have seem some of the commission vouchers. The dealership he works at has 15 salespeople, and sells between 100 and 150 new and used vehicles per month, you do the math in terms of the amount of money he makes, even if he has just average volume. The whole point of my post was only to make people take stock of the situation, realize that perhaps they are dealing with a straight shooter who knows their product, and will be there for the customer if and when something goes wrong with the vehicle. And maybe just think to themselves "Is it really worh it, saving $300 (or whatever the number is), to drive 300 miles (or however far), and make 20 phone calls (or however many it is), when the first or third person you spoke to answered all of your questions, was up front and forthright about things, and didnt play a game with you? When you could have used that time to invest in yourself personally or your family life? "Luck is not chance, its toil. Fortunes expensive smile is EARNED." Let the good ones make some money, and kick the jerks to the curb.
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Hi All, Here are my experiences: I kind of decided to buy a van to replace my current sedan almost a year back. The lethargic person I am, it took me until early January to really look for one. And that too because I expected prices to be good towards the year end (which officially close in the first week of January). I test drove the Sienna at Tricounty Toyota and Pottstown Honda. I did not like the pickup in Sienna. Sluggish it was for me. Pretty much decided that I would go with the Honda. Pottstown Honda quoted me $34610 and would not budge in spite of my repeated threats to walk out. Was dissapointed. Sent requests to several dealers in the area and through buying services. Came back with the following quotes. Contacted dealers through BJs dealers network, AAA, invoicedealersc.com, edmunds.com and carsdirect.com. Quotes varied from $500 plus invoice to MSRP: Lowest quotes I got from different dealers: JLFreed: $31464 Jones Honda (Lancaster): $31464 Philadelphia Honda: $31848 Martin/Garden State ondas: $31964 Roberts Honda: $32400 Sussman Honda: $34110 (had a very good price for EX-L). Pottstown: $34610 Scott: did not quote a price but seemed like he would not discount much I had choose between Jones and JLFreed and ended up depositing $250 with JLFreed. While not extremely pleasant to work with, JLFreed was straightforward and had a no-nonsense approach. They placed the order on January 8th. Vehicle was expected before the end of March and I was also told casually that the price would not change (though the receipt itself indicated that if the price changed, I can request a refund). I waited and waited. I kept calling up the sales person for a date or a VIN number but never got one. Towards the end of Feb I was told that the vehicle would be built in the 1st/2nd week of March. First week of March I was told that epecting the vehicle by the end of March was not realistic. In the middle of March, I was told that the vehicle would be built in the first/second week of April and that this was the firm date. Earlier dates were apparently guesses. Another complication: Honda had increased the price and my price increased by $400. I asked whether he could give me some discount because I had booked early and I was told not possible. I could take it or leave it. (If I had known that the price would increased) I would have gone with another dealer who had the vehicle and not waited. Even in January, I had known about the Ohio deals but decided to buy locally. I restarted my search and in the local area the lowest price was $31863. Started calling the Ohio dealers (Classic and Jack Matia). With Classic, price was too high and when I told them that many had gotten the vehicle around invoice, pat came the reply "Good luck!" or "No way!". Anyway, Jack Matia came back with a quote of $31663 and after some bargaining $31463. This included free delivery. I was also told that the vehicle was built on March 21 and expected in the first week of April. I was given the VIN number when I booked. The vehicle arrived on April 4th evening. Jack Matia delivered on Wednesday afternoon (6 hour drive). All paperwork was done effortlessly. Excellent sales people and managers. Excellent and polite people. Very easy to deal with. Prompt in their responses. Final Price: $31463 Temp Ohio Tags: 25.50 I paid no other document or dealer fee. I paid a total of $31488.50. I need to register the vehicle in Pennsylvania. Jack Matia said they could get it registered with a service they use but it would cost me $200. They themselves suggested that it is very easy to do it myself. I also declined to use the service. The sales people called my insurance agent and took care of that. All in all, a great experience. With respect to JLFreed, fine people but I felt that they did not really care for my business. Also, a low volume business and hence if you book I think you may have to wait a bit. But price is $500 + invoice - no haglling business. Jones Honda was also easy to deal with. Scott Honda was nice to deal with their prices are too high. Sussman Honda was a nice place but price was too high. Philadelphia Honda was ok but seems to be a very high volume dealer and may get your vehicle the fastest in the area. Prices are not bad. I will never go near Pottstown Honda again who clearly wanted me out of the showroom as quickly as possible. Roberts Honda was ok (not great) and prices were mediocre at best. Jack Matia seems to have thrown in splash guards for free (I dont believe it is standard equipment). I also got all waether mats through Ebay. $117 including shipping. (comes to $125 or so with College Hills). if you need any other information, email me. Good luck!
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Replying to: kvraman1 (Apr 12, 2005 2:57 am) |
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Replying to: nzlusa (Apr 11, 2005 6:31 pm) So what you are saying is one should pay a thousand dollars over invoice so the salesman can make $300. Wouldn't it be better to pull your salesman aside and tell him you will give him $200 cash under-the-table if he can get this new car at invoice? If you have been reading the posts it's not just $300 that most people are saving it's a $1,000. plus. It is really good that you friend has friends like you that feel that they owe the salesman and are willing to pay the owner of the dealership a premium so the salesman will be better paid. And if you end up dealing with a jerk your going to take you business elsewhere and the "good ones" are going to miss out anyway. I am not trying to flame you are your friend. It's just your logic. It should be obvious that the auto industry has changed and people have more choices. Say... Why are you reading this forum if your not willing to go somewhere else to purchase your next car? It might be better to post something about how wonderful this dealership where your friend works at is and how the salesman are straight shooters. I am sure there are people reading this forum that would really appreciate doing business where your friend works and your friend may sell a few more cars out of chance just because you wrote something positive about this dealership. |
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Replying to: david17 (Apr 11, 2005 5:00 pm) |
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Agree with your post except for the following statement. "This is called negotiating a price and the auto industry is one of the few business models left in our society that still believes in it." From my experience everything is negotiable from the purchase of a DVD player up and thru the cost of a house. In fact, but for Taxes, Grocery items, gas for your car, & maybe a few other items I have found there is very little that cannot be negotiated down. The trick is to research and understand what your options are as completely as possible and understand the $$$/value relationship. As for the 2005 HO EXL-DVD I purchased one in January at $600 over invoice or $29,600 with dest. and no other charges but for taxes, tags. I guess I can claim I only paid $200 over invoice now that Honda pushed thru their price increase. Probably could have squeezed another $100 or $200 off the price by making another round of the dealers but made the deal anyway. With the competition so fierce I would not pay more than a few hundred over invoice for the 2005 HO. Paid MSRP for my 1999 lx which I still own. |
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Replying to: moviemaster01 (Mar 30, 2005 1:29 pm) |
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