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Re: Artificial prices [rashdir]
by ody2005
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Oct 22, 2004 (2:12 pm)
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Replying to: rashdir (Oct 22, 2004 12:21 pm)
"One suggestion to buyers is if you really want it now, why not think about joining up with someone from the same city and try to workout a deal for 2+ vans at the same time"
Good idea! Anyone in Orange County, CA wants to join me for buying a 2005 Odyssey EX-L w/DVD & W/NAV for $2000 or more below MSRP. If not, I will buy this weekend for $32,200.
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- #6485 of 24381
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Purchased Odyssey in Seattle
by vshah
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Oct 22, 2004 (2:51 pm)
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After reading all these posts, I cannot understand how the dealers in Seattle area (Puget Sound) are not negotiating below $1000 above MSRP. And I see all these deals all over the country with prices below MSRP for the top of the line Touring. I don't understand this. Are we being ripped off here in the North West?
I paid MSRP + $1,200 and that was after negotiating for weeks with different dealers - most of them dropped off and only one was left, who gave me also the highest trade-in value as well as the best price.
My experience with the sales person was fantastic and when I went to see the minivan yesterday at the showroom, it is one of the best car, let alone a minivan I have ever seen.
In any case I just don't understand these price differentials.
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- #6486 of 24381
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Re: Purchased Odyssey in Seattle [vshah]
by baileybrad
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Oct 22, 2004 (3:06 pm)
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Replying to: vshah (Oct 22, 2004 2:51 pm)
Without being too harsh, yes, I think that you are getting "ripped off". I just could not enjoy a vehicle that I paid that much over MSRP to purchase. The only thing that I can figure is that those dealers are pretty much holding the line. I would not buy under those conditions. We went through the same thing when we purchased our '99 Ody back in the really nutty days. We refused to be ripped off. Many were wanting bounties on top of MSRP and adding on overpriced items of little of now value. We wound up locating a dealer who was fair, considering the market at the time. We paid sticker, nothing more. And when you looked at the value that came with the price, it was still very good compared to overpriced (very high MSRP) vans that were then "discounted" by the dealers (Dodge, Chrysler, etc.). We just purchased an '05 EX for $11,200 difference, trading our '02 EX. When the final numbers are written up, it will most likely be around a "discount" of about of $800 to $1000 dollars. The prices are going down fairly quickly in this area. Unless the excellent reviews that the Ody is receiving somehow cause a huge rush (which I doubt), the prices will continue to move below MSRP in most areas. Obviously, time will tell. We talked to a couple of Honda dealers earlier this month about the Odys and they said come back after the first of the calendar year....they have both already called me about coming in. We drove both the Ody and the XLE Sienna and the Ody was so much sweeter. I really tried to purchase a Sienna but even though there were great deals to be had the Ody was just too good to pass up.
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Re: Artificial prices [ody2005]
by rockenbach
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Oct 22, 2004 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: ody2005 (Oct 22, 2004 2:12 pm)
Hi ody2005,
Sorry, but i'm a little confused. I noticed that you posted a message where you implied that you bought(?) an Ody for 32,200 which was over 2k in savings(you may want to check your own math in that thread). Now you are "buying this weekend". So can you clarify these things? If it is true(the $32,200 deal) then you have just helped out tremendously in the form of a great bargaining chip. Of course if you don't actually own the vehicle then you comment carrys no weight at all.
Thanks in advance
Jock
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Re: Artificial prices [rockenbach]
by ody2005
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Oct 22, 2004 (4:38 pm)
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Replying to: rockenbach (Oct 22, 2004 3:37 pm)
Actually, I walked out of the deal because the saleman didn't want to give me a written paper of the total amount on paper. He afraid that I will use it and price match with another dealer. Anyway, he only wants $200 deposit for the deal and he will keep all the documents there when the car due in within 2 or 3 weeks. I think I have to go back Saturday and buy it anyway. I am just not used to order and wait 2 or 3 weeks and afraid of something might happen.
But honestly, the deal is real and he will keep the price for me when I come back.
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Re: Artificial prices [ody2005]
by rockenbach
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Oct 22, 2004 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: ody2005 (Oct 22, 2004 4:38 pm)
O k . . . too bad that is the reality of it. You do not own an Odyssey for that price. Now in 2 weeks you may(I hope so). Now I do see what you meant about "over" 2k in savins IF the price (32,200)includes the destination fee, is that right?
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Bargaining for Red EX-L
by lyradtrah
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Oct 22, 2004 (5:24 pm)
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I just bought an EX-L for my wife this afternoon. They didn't want to budge on the MSRP but they gave me a good price for my Audi A4 and they threw in the MP3 player and mud guards. They will bargain for options if they don't budge on the price. My wife and I are really happy with the purchase. Dealer: Hidy Honda in Dayton, OH. Happy hunting...
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Re: Artificial prices [ody2005]
by rockenbach
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Oct 22, 2004 (5:24 pm)
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Replying to: ody2005 (Oct 22, 2004 4:38 pm)
oh btw - it is o k for you to mention the Dealership where this is happening. So while I am not in your area, I am curious to know the name of the Dealership. Is it Norm Reeves? TIA
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Re: Artificial prices [ody2005]
by sandiego_user
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Oct 22, 2004 (7:36 pm)
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Replying to: ody2005 (Oct 22, 2004 2:12 pm)
Anyway you are getting the vehicle $2000 below MSRP.
Then why do you need to join with another person from same city. What is the advantage that you are getting by bringing in one more buyer?
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Re: Artificial prices [sandiego_user]
by surferjoe
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Oct 22, 2004 (7:44 pm)
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Replying to: sandiego_user (Oct 22, 2004 7:36 pm)
This $2000 below MSRP is starting to sound a bit fishy. I'm in Orange County, CA and have yet to see a price even close to this. The numbers from DV8TOR are pretty close to what I am seeing. Anywhere from MSRP to a few hundred below is about the lowest. Norm Reeves in Huntington Beach, Honda World in Westminster and Power in Costa Mesa are all asking $1000 to $3000 over sticker. Those three are ridiculous but there are many other places to look.
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