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#5201 of 30568 steedoflondon - minivan vs pickup
Apr 12, 2004 (5:04 pm)
Odd choice - minvan vs pickup. For what it is worth, I had the choice of SUV vs pickup in 1997 and went with an SUV (Nissan Pathfinder) and an aluminum utility trailer for the following reasons:
1) SUV was cheaper vs the full size quad cab, which was relatively new or just on the horizon in the full size pickups about that time. Seems to me they were just a half door at the time so inconvenient to get in and out.
2) SUV had 5 real seats that rate higher in crash tests versus rear seats in pickups. I had just 5 in the family at the time and the pickup was really good for just 4 if you wanted just 2 in the front seat.
3) small SUV got better gas mileage (19 vs about 14 mpg)
4) price of small SUV and 275 lb Aluma brand 548 utility trailer (probably most expensive in market at $1000) was much less than pickup, but with less engine power (had to give up something!)
5) utility trailer had 1700 lb load capacity - pickup had 1000 lb (1/2 ton). This is huge when hauling stone or dirt or sand.
6) Utility trailer is easy to clean up and doesn't depreciate the daylights out of the primary vehicle when you haul rock, sand, dirt, etc that dings it up (trust me - you would never let a front loader at the materials store dump a load in your $32000 pickup!)
7) utility trailer is easier to unload than a pickup. Comes with a ramp for easier hauling of lawn tractors, ATVs, snowmobiles, other toys.
8) utility trailer is easily adapted to a bolt on rack for hauling 6 bicycles at once (there are no rack for 6 bikes for cars/etc) which was my initial drive to get a pickup/trailer
9) the ride of the SUV was tremendously better than the full size pickup - parking, cornering, highway ride (4 wheel independent body on frame vs rear springs truck frame)
10) utility trailer could be sold with little depreciation after I had used it for all my needs
The knocks on a utility trailer is that you have to store it somewhere, which in the city and the suburbs is not really an option, and you may need to insure it if you get something worth stealing. Some newer models have folding tongues which make them fairly compact - about 6' x 9'. My neighbors have not complained about the shiny aluminum trailer that spends the winters in my driveway, usually under a pile of snow even though the protective convenants say it should not be allowed.
If I had to make the same decision today it would not be SUV vs pickup but would be minivan vs pickup and I would take the minivan and the utility trailer in a heartbeat with the great towing capability, price, and the incredible horsepower you get in a minivan (the 245 hp in my 2004 Honda Odyssey blows away the 170 hp in my 1997 Nissan Pathfinder and has a much better ride and better fuel economy).
Good luck and beware of future additions. My 5 seat SUV became obsolete as the family hauler when baby number 4 appeared.
#5202 of 30568 Re: 03 Purchase from Private Seller [shellytc #5194]
Apr 12, 2004 (6:05 pm)
I have been in the market for a 2004 Honda Odyssey. We are looking at a new EX with leather and rear entertainment system. My quotes have been near invoice; however, in my near final negotiations, my best quote is $27,238.00. This includes some accessories (ex. pin stripes, cargo tray, splash guards, etc.) Also, I have been quoted $995.00 for a 72 month/100k Honda Care bumper-to-bumper warranty.
I would consider a new 2004 instead.
Apr 12, 2004 (6:11 pm)
Thanks for your post. That helps a lot. I am looking at a new one and have started negotiations. first quote from dealer was $200 over invoice.
I'll keep your information around for the final.
#5204 of 30568 Re: Missstatefan [shellytc #5203]
Apr 12, 2004 (6:30 pm)
Good luck with your search Shelly.
I am still trying to determine if I want the Honda Care extended warranty. As I stated, the estimated cost is $995 for a 72month/100k. One deal that I have ($100 below invoice) includes a dealer sponsored 6yr/75k powertrain warranty. This is not a Honda Care warranty.
I was told that a transmission rebuild could cost as much as $6000. If a rebuild is required, the Honda Care would be a good investment. Are most folks electing to pay the extra 1K or so to get the Honda Care extended warranty?
#5205 of 30568 CarsDirect.com Price on EX-L RES
Apr 13, 2004 (10:59 am)
Hi. I am new to this site and have spent the last four hours reading old posts. What a GREAT site and community.
Has anybody ever successfully used (and been happy post-purchase) CarsDirect.com to purchase their Odyssey?
I am interested in a EX-L RES. The CarsDirect.com price for area code 30305 (Atlanta) is $26,870. This includes the EX-L RES features/functions and the $490 destination charge.
I'm inclined to just jump on this, and not spend many hours touring local dealer lots and sales offices. Has anybody managed to get a dealer to "beat" the CarsDirect.com price?
Thank you in advance
Apr 13, 2004 (11:15 am)
While waiting for responses in here, feel free to spend a few hours over in CarsDirect.com experiences
And welcome to Town Hall!
#5208 of 30568 Re: CarsDirect.com Price on EX-L RES [jtsembrot #5205]
Apr 13, 2004 (12:16 pm)
At $600 under invoice, your quote from Carsdirect seems very fair. Keep in mind that the current Ody is a soon-to-be extinct model, so deals may get (slightly) better, but color/model choices will diminish. The Carsdirect price for my zipcode (western PA) is an incredible $1,100 more. I'd jump on the $26,870, unless you're the type that enjoys spending a week of your time to chisel off a little more.
#5210 of 30568 Get a warranty
Apr 13, 2004 (2:22 pm)
I will say this much - get some kind of extended warranty. We got one for our 96 Accord for up to 100K milles. Even though Hondas are reliable, it still had enough repairs that the warranty paid for itself well over. Plus, things that were covered were in some cases minor enough that I probably would have tried to live with them if they hadn't been.
I didn't get an extended warranty on my 97 Chevy pickup and certainly wish I had. It's at 93000 miles and I've probably spent better than $3000 in repairs and that's after saving a few bucks by replacing bad alternators and A/C compressors myself.