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Good luck, let me know if I can help in any way. My wife is unwilling to be color blind for any price either. Yeah, Dublin wouldn't do anything below MSRP in December when I started talking to them. Even last month they were trying to sell me the Ody at $500 of MSRP. But they started lowering the prices fast after I told them Anderson/Capitol Hondas are going much lower. Personally I don't understand why they don't have THE lowest price in SF bay area with 30 plus Odys on the lot the past 2 months. I'd think they want to move those as fast as Anderson and Capitol, but what do I know about dealership profits? Thanks to Sienna, now prices in SF area are falling faster than my NASDAQ portfolio, but that's another topic... |
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It looks like we are on the verge of buying (as in by Monday at the very latest) a 2003 EXL-RES. I sent about 10 or so internet "Quick Quotes" to area Honda dealers including a couple in South Georgia and one high volume dealer in Alabama. Per Edmunds the invoice for what we want is $27,359 including destination charges. I indicated in my e-mails that we were ready to move fast and that I was unwilling to pay more than $28,000- about $650 over invoice. We are an all cash buyer so the transaction is easy to quote and close. Right now I have 3 strong quotes- two in Atlanta and one from Alabama. One is right at $28,000 with about $125 in various fees (not including Georgia sales tax). I have two more: one at $28,200 plus $400 in fees and one at $28,400 with $99 in fees. These last two quotes are better than they seem as both these units also include the crossbars for the roof rack, the cargo mat, and the mudguards. These are all add ons I was interested in- I just thought I would buy them later in the parts department. Incidentally, I also had another quote for a unit with no add-on accessories at $28,000 plus $400 in fees but I would have to wait about 2 weeks for delivery in my color. Subject to getting retraded by the dealers over the weekend I should get a 2003 EXL-DVD with crossbars, cargo tray, and mudguards for about $28,400 with our total drive out price at $30,450+/- after 7% Georgia sales taxes and fees. Once the deal is closed I will repost to confirm but things look good considering I have 3 quotes all within about $200 of each other (once add-on accessory value is considered). Comments: Several dealers responded that my $28,000 expectation was way too low and quoted around $28,900. A few also commented that as recently as a few months ago they were getting MSRP+ for Odys (too bad, so sad). If you look on the Nissan Quest 2004 page you will see that I am seriously interested in that model. For those of you who can hold out I think by, say August, prices will even be lower. By then you will have 3 competitive minivans competing- Ody, Sienna, and Quest. However, my wife will be driving this thing every day. She wants a minivan now- not in 3 or 4 months. We have to take a 500+ mile each way trip for Easter. She did not want to do this with two kids (including a newborn) in an Altima (hers) or a Infiniti G20 (mine). I can't blame her except I think the Quest (if we could have waited) might be great. As to the Sienna, I like it a lot and I think it is supeior to the Honda. However, I think, in my arbitrary opinion, that the Sienna is about 10% better than the Ody indicating we would only pay around $31,000 (not including TTL and sales tax) for a Sienna. My 10% better assessment includes the fact the Sienna has certain features the Ody does not. The best Sienna comp for a Ody EXL-RES is the XLE leather with four wheel disc brakes and DVD. This ideal model for us, if obtainable (which it is not) would list for about $34,500 (we would also get the side curtain airbags). I think it will be several months before we could see the kind of discount we would need ($3,500) on a Sienna to be only 10% more than an Ody. The other problem is that optioning out and obtaining the "ideal" Sienna is nearly impossible because the regional Toyota distributors are controlling what option combinations are available (of course you can special order but that type of buy won't be discounted much). The final point is that since the Ody is about 5 model years old now I hope that it is well refined in terms of reliability. And, yes, I have surfed the Ody problems page. Plus my brother in law has a '99 Ody. Thanks for reading this war and peace length minivan confession. I will write back once our Ody purchase is closed in the next couple of days or with the news we chickened out and decided to hold out for the Quest introduction. Any last minute thoughts or comments before we commit? |
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If you want to read long spiel, go to the Ody versus Sienna forum and read the last 100 posts. Those guys (present company included) can get really long winded. If you feel really argumentative, go and post that you think Sienna is only 10% better than the Ody and it's not worth the money for you. Guarantee you will get some response. Andrew can hook you up with a Honda parts web site for your cross bars and stuff. You can get these cheaper than your local dealer. You should go to the Sienna price paid board and look for some dude name blandfordm as he claims he can't find any Atlanta deals less than $1K off MSRP and that's his rationale for getting a Sienna. If you wife need a van now, waiting for a new Quest doesn't make any sense, does it? And with the brand new radical design, how secure are you in that there's no bugs. Odyssey may not be the latest and greatest, but in its fifth year, I'd bet there's less problems than a brand new design in the Quest. But I'm out of my league in tech talk, I'll let the "collective wisdom" handle that part. Good luck on whatever you decide. |
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Great job in all you comparison and how you came to your decision. Congratulations in advance, I am sure you will be happy with it. You never did mention which color you were looking into. That is funny, everything you just said is what I have have been saying over at the Ody - Sienna forum. Then I was labled as a "bitter Ody owner". For the definition of "Bitter Ody owner" go there and read up on it, as someone complained we were all long winded, and you would fit right in. Yes I too purchased the Midnight Blue EXL RES just 2 weeks ago, because I couldn't stomach the price difference of $5k-$7k in order to get the Sienna. Just as I have been posting, I may not have the latest and greatest, but I walked away with a better bargain, still came away with a safe reliable minivan. Keep us posted |
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| what is the price diff on a sienna with nav versus odyssey with a nav. my bet is several thousand??? i cant wait to hear andrews response on how kewl the nav is AGAIN lol | |
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| Which dealers near Atlanta or Macon Georgia gave you the best offer including any fees? | |
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Since last night's post the prices have tighted up a little more. I now have a deposit on a 2003 EXL-RES Ody with the cross bars, cargo mat, and mudgards for $28,100 plus $117 in doc fees. This is the total drive out price not including my Georgia sales tax. The dealer is in Alabama (I live in Atlanta) and they are to deliver it to my house on Monday (free of charge). I'm not sure what value the other readers will put on the accessories but assuming an accessory value of at least $200 this implies the Ody is going for about $27,900 which I think is about $650 over invoice. The color is Sandstone. In the end the Alabama dealer won by about $250. My only advice to other "internet buyers" is to e-mail the dealers directly to cut out any intermediaries and fees and to be very upfront, almost blunt about what you will pay. The icing on the cake for the dealer is that you are ready to buy immediately with no wasted time or delays for financing, etc. Interestingly, it looks like the only dealers willing to get real competitive all had two of my model and color in stock. Also, in my case my process started only yesterday morning. I'll confirm satisfactory delivery on Monday. Once I get delivery I will respond to the question as to who the competitive dealers were. |
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| That's the difference in price as of April 2003 between the Odyssey NAV+DVD RES and the Sienna NAV+DVD RES. If you say, "but you can't get both DVD RES and NAV on the Odyssey," you are wrong. The dealer installed DVD RES is basically the same as the factory installed DVD RES with the same DVD player installed into the front dash. In other words, it's a "Honda" Brand with the "Honda" on the dvd player and a 7" widescreen, not the Audiovox brand installed under your seats. | |
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Sounds like you got "NAV for free", and not mounted on the dash! I got one like yours, TOO! Hey, do you think anybody's out buying Odys at Dublin HOnda this weekend, IN THE RAIN? I see their inventory count went down today from yesterday, 38 to 37, big WOW! Good news is I got my PeopleFirst application approved in less than 24 hours, is that normal? Most likely will sit on it though and "wait", no big hurry, also not colorblind, just prefer the black but I can live with just about anything for the right price. Had to drop into the office today, so back to my taxes, later! |
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Trust me, if you poll the guys at this board, many will tell you they all have a "portable NAV" that tells them where they should go. The portability goes from car to car, car to house... Yeah, it was raining buckets out here today (at least by CA standards). This after being in the 70's just few days ago. Go figure. Oh, yes, back to van talk. People first advertises themselves as being really simple to get approved, like in 1 hour or less. If you're a Costco member, you can get peoplefirst through them for 0.25% less. The drawback with people first is on the backend that in order to "fund" the money, they are more strict in their procedures and not all car dealers like to work with them. I had a peoplefirst loan also, but be sure to check whomever you intent to do business with that they accept People first, some takes them, some don't. I forgot if Dublin's position on People fist, but I was told outright by Autowest Honda and Capitol Hondas amongst other that they don't take People first. Ask first or else you'll be unpleasantly surprised when you get to the finance managers office. Here's a web site to read up more on car financing tips: http://www.carbuyingtips.com/carintro.html Let me know if you need more help and stay dry. |
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