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24381 messages, Last post on Dec 05, 2009 at 9:37 AM
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My wife and I just purchase a ODY today over the 04 Siena. We were both previous Toyota owners and have been happy with Toyota. We test drove the Siena limited and immiedately noticed how loud the engine was. Even after it had warmed up it was much to noisy for a $36K Vehicle. The handling and turning in the Toyota is superb !! The sonar system doesn't work for crap when we tried it out in a parking lot it could not detect big cement base for a parking lot light fixture. The Honda Ody drove a bit smoother and much quieter than the Toyota. One thing odd we noticed about the ODY DVD Entertainment system is that although there are controls for the DVD, CD and AM/FM only the DVD system works with the wireless headphones.. Very strange but several of the salesman confirmed that for us. We ended getting an ODY without the DVD system. Overall we felt that the ODY at almost $6K less than the Toyota Limited was a real good value. Even when the XLE was priced it too was more than the ODY with less features. |
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I just bought my LX at Jacobs Twin Honda in Chicago last week choosing it over the '04 Sienna. I'm replacing a '99 Ody. I promised them not to give exact numbers, but was able to do better than $2000 off MSRP with 3.49% financing for 60 months and "dealer cost" pricing on accessories - CD, roof rack, extra keys (get them before you own it or you pay extra for programming), and splash guards. I chose the '03 Ody over the '04 Sienna based on the deal and my wager on reliability. The Toyota dealers here are still asking for MSRP, including the one who sold me my company car, an '03 Camry under invoice with 2.9 % for 48 months back in November. As for reliability, I had all the gremlins in my '99 Ody that you see on this and other sites - transmission, EGR clogging (twice), freezing rear doors, even the clock light. So why another Ody you ask? Well if you study automobile model reliability in the foremost magazine reporting consumer issues, you will find that even Honda's and Toyota's new models have gremlins the first year out lately - note the '02 Camry. The same source also shows Ody reliability improving each model year. Also, while I've experienced all the gremlins with the '99 Ody, Honda and my local dealer have been great about covering the cost, so I've been out little out of pocket relative to the probelms I've had. Honda even covered the transmission even though I had it rebuilt by AAMCO - it occurred out of town on Christmas Eve. Also if you consult the same magazine above you will find that in overall rating the difference between the '03 Ody and the '03 Sienna is minisule. I view the difference in features as quite significant, however. Having studied and driven each vehicle, I view the POTENTIAL superiority of the '04 Sienna over the '99 - '03 Ody as much less than the superiority of the '99 - '03 Ody over the '98 - 03' Sienna. I had to do some work to get the deal I ended up with. I've been looking since Christmas and getting resistance to go more than $1000 under MSRP from the dealers I visited. Finally Airway Honda came out with an ad for EX's at $2300+ under MSRP. They wouldn't do that on an LX when I visited, however. Jacobs Twin came up with a reasonable deal, though. I may have been able to get a similar or better price relative to MSRP, but the financing and adding accessories at "cost" - I realize it has some padding in it if they'll show me the numbers - clinched the deal. I find the handling tighter, the seats firmer, and the engine a hair better in the '03. Having traction control and 4 wheel discs standard is nice as well. To get your own deal, I recommend: 1) Do your homework - there is no substitute. Read the ads, look at this and other sites, and read the magazines. 2) Know what you want - in the vehicle as well as price. Is a particular color important? Which model do you want? How much will you spend for the next model higher? 3) Be patient and persistent - keep talking to dealers and probing. You probably won't get the best deal from the guy down the street. Visit dealers while you're out for other things. 4) Be willing to walk away if the deal isn't good enough. I shopped seven dealers after my initial contact. I calculate that each one saved me several hundred dollars though. Good luck and good hunting. |
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Congratulations to you both. Scott, I couldnt have said it better on your tips. If you dont mind I will just add a little of my two cents from my experience 1) YOU MUST DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Dont expect the salesman to come right out and give you everything you want and give you a price HE feels is fair. If you don't do any homework then expect to get screwed. And if you are like my brother in-law who is terrified of salesman, than pay MSRP and get it over with, but don't complain of the price you paid. 2) If you are in a rush, dont act and don't tell them. Salesman can smell blood and it will only make you an easy target. 3) Persistences is what got me my deal, and it is what got Scott his deal. I got screwed 2, but I just kept going back to Honda's site and email dealers some more. My final email to the last batch of dealers was very mean, I said I want, A,B,C,and D, if you want to make me an offer than contact me, if not, keep me in mind when you can meet my demands. When you make the offer I will want it in writing and signed by an authorized manager and fax to me with a VIN#. This last email just cut all the games for me, I wish I had done this a long time ago. 4) You bet you can walk out. I drove an hour to a dealership, and they thought they could play games with me, and I got up and walked out. I was pissed off but in the end I got a better deal from another dealer. There are other dealers out there, and someone will be willing to give it to you. One last thing, try to use other vehicles to your advantage. Doesn't matter if you aren't considering them. In my case I used the 04 Sienna and the 04 Quest coming out in July. Told them I have no problems waiting for the 04 Quest and to see what will happened to the pricing of the 04 Sienna then, and watch the pricing on the Ody really drop. So they can get my deal now, at my current price OR get my deal later at a bigger discount for me. |
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| I am looking into buying an Odyssey LX with the dealer installed roof rack. The MSRP for the roof rack is $299, but not including installation. Does anyone know what Honda dealers have been typically charging for installation of a roof rack? | |
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scottjay01 - congrats on your new Ody! Woo-hoo! I am curious though on the "dealer cost" of the accessories. My dealer quotes "at cost" were still well above what I found online at sites like hondapartsforyou or handaaccessories (yes, that is the spelling...). I ended up saving over $150 on a $200 order. Donutdan - $299 is the list price for the complete roof rack for the LX. Have you thought about doing it yourself? I've found it online for $215 and looked at the installation instructions. It looks pretty easy. You might also want to think about using any online price which is better to get your dealer to include the installation fee in the $299 purchase of the roof rack from them. |
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Sylvia, I can't get to the "handaaccessories" page you mentioned. Can you double check the spelling? I'm looking for Andrew's "mother in law soup proof" cargo tray for now and I know the other site is where he bought his. Just wanted to do some price checking before I buy it and then visit the in-laws. Thanks. |
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| Harry, it's handa-accessories.com and the price is $70.80 plus S/H of about $7 UPS. | |
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Thanks dude. So looks like your deal is better than this place. The wife didn't want the cargo tray at first, but I keep reading about the soups you and lapvn talk about with the in-laws and I'm getting nervous with our up coming trip to the in laws. What's the approx. delivery time for your tray after ordering? |
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Yeah, I always check out multiple sites before buying anything. I ordered the cargo tray on a Monday and got it on a Friday. If you're in a hurry, Harry, you might ask your sales person if he can match the internet price on the Cargo Tray---which would be the "at cost" price. See what's the difference in price. |
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