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Honda Odyssey, Van
#3480 of 30585 Midwest Pricing
Mar 19, 2003 (8:33 am)
Unlikely many of us midwesterners are willing to pay MSRP for a Honda Odyssey minivan when there are a lot of good competitors out there, if you are willing to look beyond the import brands. Grand Caravans can be had reasonably equipped but not loaded for around $20-21K and 3.3 L V-6 short wheelbase versions quite decently equipped for in the $18K range. With $4-8K less spent up front, that money can go a long way towards covering any potential higher maintenance costs. (Yes, I own a 1996 short wheelbase Caravan and at 64k miles have had zero problems except one fairly expensive AC repair)
#3481 of 30585 Repairs
Mar 19, 2003 (8:45 am)
Caravans are historic for A/C and transmission issues. Hondas are known for being bulletproof and #1 resale value in america. No incentives, no rebates, no special financing, no fleet or lease sales ensures this for Honda. Look at how GM is destroying the used car market with 0 - 0 - 0. Their own vehicles have been taking a huge hit as well. Pay $45K for a Tahoe in 2001, you can buy one today for $29K. So much for great trade in value.
#3482 of 30585 I said nothing about trade in value
Mar 19, 2003 (8:55 am)
However, If you trade your Ody often, why worry about reliability? Almost all vehicles are good for at least 3-4 years. You lose a lot of money in depreciation if you trade that often no matter what the make. I keep mine 10-12 years, and by then all brands will have depreciated to very low value, so depreciation does not matter to me. $4-8K less out of pocket can pay for a huge amount of repairs. Ody's haven't had a spotless transmission history either, by the way.
Not slamming Ody, I'm sure it is a very good vehicle, just wanted to interject the dollar conscious feelings of a midwestern minivan owner.
Mar 19, 2003 (12:03 pm)
I agree, the Ody has probably been a little less reliable than the typical Honda. My relatives have an Ody and the transmission has already been rebuilt once (under warranty with 33K miles) and now is reportedly slipping again. This is from a car nut family that does not abuse their vehicles. Reportedly the new 2002 Ody transmission solved this problem. Also, I have heard first hand reports from Ody owners about the power doors malfunctioning. We are seriously considering a Ody but they not quite bullet proof.
#3484 of 30585 smartboy...PRICING
Mar 19, 2003 (5:37 pm)
I also expanded my search for pricing to include Jacobs and also Airway. If this was in January, I might have been tempted to make the trip, however now with a new bad boy on the block, I know that pricing is starting to come down. Not to the level we like but at least it is a sign. A dealer called me back and offered $800 below MSRP, we told him thank you, just keep us in mind if you go lower. The level we are looking at is at least $1700 off, so the discount is still way off. However time is on our side. Believe me when I say, so many of us wish we could easily drive over to the windy city just to end this journey. It's fun, but at times I run out of patience and loose perspective.
#3485 of 30585 Re: Smartboy/Pricing
Mar 19, 2003 (5:58 pm)
To follow up on lapvn's point above, it's not just the quick southwest flight. That's the easy part. Especially for the people out here in the west coast, the drive back is the hard part. Just for laughs sake, Yahoo map shows the distance from Ohio to my home in CA is 2480 or so miles. Discounting the fact you may not want to put your brand new van through such trip, the time and cost of doing such trip is prohibitive for anyone out here in the west coast. Or pay $800 to have it shipped out here in a flatbed truck. Enjoy your great Honda savings in Ohio as it's an envy to all of us here in CA.
Mar 19, 2003 (11:35 pm)
The road trip is half the fun, especially if you avoid the interstates! I'm getting a used car next week and driving it back 3,000 miles. Live a little
Mar 20, 2003 (9:44 am)
You DA MAN, Steve, driving 3000 miles on a car you just bought. Now only if I get get my 2 old year kid to sit for more than 2 hours in the back seat...
Mar 20, 2003 (9:55 am)
lol, now that's impossible - I don't care how many DVD players and Barney tapes you have. Just have to go with the flow for a few years on that one
#3489 of 30585 Odyssey price in SF.Bay area
Mar 20, 2003 (1:59 pm)
Any one know the current price Ody EX-L in the SF Bay area since the new Sienna just comes out.