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#29505 of 30053 Re: Buying Odyssey Touring in SF, CA [cali_dreaming]
Dec 15, 2012 (7:25 pm)
I just spoke to a dealer in Pittsburgh about pricing on a 2012 Touring Elite and he told me that invoice was $41,500 and I wasn't interested in buying one from him (p.s. it was the Service Manager, not the salesman).
I think you have a GREAT deal if you do not have to pay the 10% surcharge. I'd buy it.
We purchased a 2012 Touring Elite and it is the BEST vehicle we have ever owned.
Only one problem/tip.
The Battery in ours was an AC Delco and 550 Cold Cranking Amps (CCA). It went dead repeatedly and, if you read the blogs, a big BIG problem with the batteries going dead.
What the Service Manager told me is that in order to maximize fuel mileage, Honda runs the idle apparently lower, thus lower output, and the low CCA and if you are running the power doors, or lights or rear decklid, the battery can go dead very fast.
We think, THINK, we have found a solution. Go to Walmart and buy their 750CCA MaxLife I think its called ($84.97). It is labeled the 24FV if I remember and has the positive pole (red) on the left side. ...where you want/need it.
Since we did this (two days ago) we were packing the car for a trip to our daughter's on Long Island on Thursday night, had the doors open/close tons of time, the rear/hatch lid up and down about 10 times and the battery has been GREAT.
It appears/APPEARS that this MAY be the solution, a larger CCA of 750 vs. 550.
That is the ONLY problem we have had and we LOVE, LOVE, LOVE our van, especially the blind spot sensors.
One final recommendation. I'd strongly, strongly recommend you consider purchasing WeatherTech floor and cargo liners. We had them in our 2008 Toyota Van and they were wonderful and have them in our 2012 Elite.
Also, while at it, here's some other recommendations. On our 2008 Toyota, we had tons of road rock dings on the front. Our solution cost $249.99 BUT it is the BEST solution I know of and is used on virtually ALL aircraft. It is made by 3m and is 8mm clear plastic film and covers the entire front of the car as well as the rear view mirrors. The item # is: 320989531765
and is from www.carprotectionpro.com. Search EBAY as: Honda Odyssey 2013 2012 2011 2010 3M Clear Bra Paint Protection Film Kit
Also, I'd strongly recommend you considering purchasing:
2011-2013 Honda Odyssey Splash Guards Genuine OEM Honda (Touring) (Fits: 2012 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite) on EBay. The cost is $62.99 and stops rock dings against your fenders/doors. Note, these are ONLY for the Elite.
Also, we have found that the Odyssey rain deflectors are wonderful. The best price we found is at: www.autoanything.com for $59.95. http://www.autoanything.com/deflectors/60A1230A0A0.aspx
Finally, we also purchased two additional things.
1st; Introtech sun shade. $39.95. 4 1/2 star reviews. http://www.autoanything.com/driving-accessories/60A4065A0A0.aspx
2nd. Moon roof rain/wind deflector. $99.95. http://www.autoanything.com/deflectors/60A1069A0A0.aspx
OMG, almost forgot. VIP. Unless you can get the dealer to install as part of the purchase, the van does NOT come equipped with either a roof rack or body protection moldings. For us, these were critical.
If you don't want someone else's doors dinging yours, you may want to get these.
They are $134.99 less 15% and FREE shipping.
Also, equally important, a roof rack system. The dealers want $635 plus tax to install them. I can't remember where I purchased our rails and cross bars but if you want to know, we looked everywhere for the best price and it was about $200 or so, complete and my son in law installed them.
Here's two places to look but email me if you are interested and I'll check my PayPal account where I bought them.
The Touring Elite is a real head turner. It is the, THE best vehicle we have EVER owned.
Hope that helps.
#29506 of 30053 Re: Buying Odyssey Touring in SF, CA [tommylaws1]
Dec 16, 2012 (7:59 pm)
thank you very much!
#29507 of 30053 Buying Tonight! 2013 Touring San Francisco OTD $41,536.78
Dec 18, 2012 (4:21 pm)
I got an out the door price quote in San Francisco for a 2013 Touring of $41,536.78
How does that sound? I'm thinking of just going the Touring and not the Elite. I don't know how much my kids will care about the bigger TV screen.
#29508 of 30053 Odyssey Touring vs. Touring Elite
Dec 18, 2012 (5:38 pm)
Well, of course, your choice however.
Several aspects of our Touring Elite that you may wish to consider.
We find the two MOST useful aspects of the TE are;
1. Blind spot vehicle alerts. We use these every, EVERY time we drive. After having owned the car for about a month, it is the MOST useful feature we have. We would never again buy any car without them.
2. Parking sensore, front and read. All I can say is that until you have them, we had no idea as to how worthwhile they are.
Now, we are grandparents and the grandchildren rarely ride in the TE however, we have two boys (out of 14 grandchildren) who their mom and dad drove them somewhere and they watched a DVD and now, they don't want to watch the DVD in their Chrysler T&C. 'We want grandma's car'.
Further, although you cannot play two different DVD's on the rear screen at the same time (at least we think you can't but hey), you can play a video game from a console that allows you to 'split screen' the DVD and it is a huge DVD/media screen.
One final thought. Our van now has about 4,500 miles on it (yes, we are on the road a lot with it) and, we went to Europe on a trip for two weeks and our son in law told us when we got back that the battery repeatedly was going dead and he had to jump start is. We drove it home, 585 miles to NC and the problem continued. My wife was so concerned about the van going dead on her somewhere that she actually told me....'sell the van, I can't take the uncertainty'.
By chance, I spoke to the Service Manager at Bob Barbour Honda in Greenville, NC, (David) who told me that he thought that the reason for this was two things.
1st, apparently the alternator output is only 12.5 volts at idle and it takes 12 volts to run the vehicle. Further, David advised, because of Honda's desire to keep gas mileage as high as possible, they have kept the idle output voltage low, which is why the dealers tell owners to 'drive the car further'.
To say that this is p*ssing the Soccer Mom's off is an understatement. Read the Odyssey forums and you'll see that hundreds if not thousands of owners have exactly the same problem and,
2nd. I took the TE to two different places, my own 'shop' where I have a very good relationship with the owner and to Walmart. At my 'local guy' I had him run a stress test on the battery and when he took off the input air intake (it covers the battery) he took one look at the battery and said, 'there's the problem. I said, 'what problem' and he replied. AC Delco battery. Its a crummy battery and it only has 500 or 550 Cold Cranking Amps (CCA). He said, with all of your electrical load (power doors/rear hatch) etc., this battery is too low CCA, even though the battery 'checked out'.
I then took the TE to Walmart and had them run the same test with their test equipment, with similar results and the tech there said to me, the read out says, 'low battery, charge needed' and he proceeded to say, look, I can't tell but it might be a bad cell.
Well, we were driving back up to Long Island in two days and I wasn't about to get stranded so the day before I went up on Amazon.com and purchased the highest rated battery 'booster' (1750 CCA) I could find. $124.88). I told the Walmart Tech, I want the EverStart 24 FV (it has the positive/red lead on the left side, vs. the FN on the right if I remember correctly). The battery is made by Johnson Controls and is rated for 750 cca vs the 500 or 550 on the AC Delco.
Results, today is the 18th and we installed it on the 13th and so far, it has not gone dead once.
My recommendation to you is that no matter what Odyssey you buy, read the blogs BEFORE on the Honda Odyssey forums and read how Honda will NOT do anything about this 'dead battery' situation, that the Battery Management System (BMS) will only tell you that you need to 'charge it more' and that the BMS in NO WAY protects you from having a dead battery.
Honda Odyssey buyers are NOT happy (see for yourself and read the problems that MotorTrend had with their Odyssey's BMS. http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/vans/1203_2011_honda_odyssey_touring- _elite_update_6/
or the Honda BMS 'software fix' that does not appear to have 'fixed ' the problem PLUS, the recall is NOT for any 2012 or 2013...only 2011's. https://sites.google.com/site/hondalowbatterydefect/
Good luck. With the new batter we now have the BEST vehicle we have ever owned.
Also, my previous posts lists some aftermarket items you may be interested in.
#29509 of 30053 2013 Odyssey EX-L in NJ
Dec 19, 2012 (10:03 am)
Hi All, First time buying a new car. Need your advice please.
In the market for 2013 Odyssey EX-L. Just received a quote for $35,965 (sticker) from a dealer in NJ. What do you think?
#29510 of 30053 Re: 2013 Odyssey EX-L in NJ [bluspider]
Dec 19, 2012 (10:27 am)
Hello, MSRP IS 36055, I work for a Honda dealer in KY. That's suggested retail. There is def room for you to save and dealership to make a profit. Just do your homework and research. If you want to be fair, offer 2-3 percent over invoice. I would accept that kind of deal! Fair for me, dealership and Customer. If you have any additional questions, let me know!
#29511 of 30053 Re: 2013 Odyssey EX-L in NJ [eenyieb]
Dec 19, 2012 (12:27 pm)
thanks eenyieb, let me see what I can do.
Usually what is the ideal OTD price? I hear prices around 32500. Does any one have any tips to get the price to this level?
#29512 of 30053 Bought 2013 Touring - OTD $40,400 in San Francisco, CA
Dec 19, 2012 (11:17 pm)
Bought the Touring
$37,251, less $500 for taking the financing package. OTD was $40,400 roughly with California/San Francisco taxes of nearly 10%.
I had several dealers tell me they would lose money on this price and that they wouldn't match or beat it. ">
#29513 of 30053 Re: 2013 Odyssey EX-L in NJ [bluspider]
Dec 20, 2012 (6:58 am)
Got a quote on 2012 Odyssey EXL for $32000 OTD with free top rails and cross bars. I'm in MA.
#29514 of 30053 Re: 2013 Odyssey EX-L in NJ [dharmakaya]
Dec 20, 2012 (9:48 am)
Thanks Dharmakaya. The dealers here won't give me OTD price over email or phone. They wanted me to schedule a dealership visit to give me the final price. How did you get the quote.