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Honda Odyssey, Van
#29019 of 30041 Re: 2012 EXL RES Tennessee [dinehs]
Jun 25, 2012 (11:09 am)
Because I actually LOVE the vehicle, just don't trust the transmission. I did drive the Dodge/Chrysler van and it just doesn't compare. The Toyota has the worst fuel economy of all the vans, the VW is actually a dodge, Nissan I don't really know much about, but they don't rate well and there are no other options for a minivan. (ps...drove the Mazda5 and loved it, but too small) I have a family of 5 all the time and 6 sometimes. All the crossovers lose their cargo area when using the third seat. So a minivan was really our only option. The Odyssey is the best in that class, IMO.
Here's what they repaired/replaced on my 2005 under the extended care warranty: 4 power steering pumps, catalytic converter, repaired the door mechanism when the auto open quit working, repaired the dvd player, steering rack. And that's just what I can think of. The transmission torque converter started going out at 97k, confirmed at 107k, outside the warranty period. I am trying to get some of my money back right now since I paid to have it repaired before the current TSB on it was issued that changed the starndard warranty to 105k for the torque converter - June 2012. The reason I traded is because after having it rebuilt, it went out again 3 months later, another rebuild, then again 2 months after that - so 3 rebuilds in 5 months and 6000 miles (which that wasn't Honda's fault - independent shop - who fixed it each time under the transmission repair warranty) but leaving me stranded on the hwy twice 100 miles from home. Just didn't trust it to get me to Florida in July.
ps. check out the odyclub.com forum and it will give you an idea of some of the problems the van has and the frequency, plus lots of insights...
#29020 of 30041 Re: 2012 EXL RES Tennessee [lkharvey]
Jun 25, 2012 (8:55 pm)
If the original quote was 28109 w/o the warranty, how were you able to bring the cost down and still manage to add the warranty costing 1546. You must be salesman too. Let us know how you did that.
#29021 of 30041 Bought EXL with nav
Jun 25, 2012 (8:57 pm)
Happy to report that I bought EXL with nav past weekend
paid 32539 including dest tax & title extra
I live in de so tax was 3.75%
No surprises with fees, threw in free wheel locks
Overall a great buying experience from heritage honda westminister MD
Thanks to all advice from this forum.
#29022 of 30041 Re: Odyssey 2012 touring michigan 37K [asda]
Jun 26, 2012 (6:08 am)
Hi there. Which Honda dealer did you go to that gave you 37k for touring? I'm also in michigan. Thanks.
Jun 26, 2012 (6:49 am)
Just agreed to a deal for a Touring in polished metal. $36,573+ another $399 in options (was at 499 for the spladhguards, trunk matt, and wheel locks). OTD $40,893
I went the internet quotes/email route. As long as they dont lowball my trade in, Ill be signing and driving home Thursday.
#29024 of 30041 Re: Just bought an EX-L [chiku18]
Jun 26, 2012 (7:19 am)
Here is the Offer I have in NJ For EXL W RES
Base Price 32030.0
Sales Tax (7%) 2300.2
Doc Fee 299.0
Total OTD 35466.7
Requesting advice if this is good offer?
#29025 of 30041 Finally! Bought the EXL-with RES
Jun 26, 2012 (9:50 am)
We bought the EXL w/RES (Smoky Topaz w/ Truffle interior) this past weekend. I will follow up with a detailed post with my process/experience - it's long, so I thought I'd post the critical numbers first.
*Of note, is that the comparison shopping/negotiation period lasted about 2 weeks for me and there was quite a bit of back and forth - I've been told by a few dealers that I got a great deal that they could not beat, and some wouldn't even match it.
EXL with RES (no accessories)
Vehicle Price: $31,300.00 (They told me they were losing $698 on this deal)
NJ Tire Fees: $7.50 (1.50/tire)
Reg./Title Fees: $399.00
NJCAR DSP: $8.00
Doc Fees: $199.00
I bought my car from Mahwah Honda in Mahwah, NJ. I had a pleasant experience when I went to pick up the car and I would recommend them, with the stipulation that you do your negotiating via email.
Thank you to this forum and the posters who really helped educate me in the whole online buying process, this was the first car that I have personally negotiated for and bought and it was a great experience (though frustrating/stressful at times). Can't wait to buy my next car
#29026 of 30041 EXL with RES - Personal Buying Experience in NJ
Jun 26, 2012 (10:45 am)
So, here is the detailed version of my Odyssey buying experience. I am sharing it with the forum with the thought that it might help someone else. I started car shopping late May, right around Memorial Day weekend. Although, I felt the typical showroom pressure to buy from the salespeople I knew I wasn’t ready, that’s when I turned to the internet and found this forum. I actually started emailing dealerships in early June. I cut to the chase and told them that I was planning on purchasing in the next 7-10 days and that I was shopping the tristate area (NJ/PA/DE) for the absolute best price. I insisted they breakdown the price by: base price, destination, reg./title fees, doc fees, and taxes. Some obliged right away, others followed up with the details after I insisted that they needed to break it down in order for me to even consider them. Only one dealership did not follow up.
Initially I emailed 10 dealerships in NJ, PA and DE, the criteria was that they had to be a drivable distance, but that was flexible depending on the actual price difference. The numbers I was getting in the NJ area seemed higher than reported on the forum, so I decided to broaden the search area and emailed a few dealers in MD, VA and White Allen in Dayton, OH. I basically did this because I needed a “BEST PRICE” to take to my local dealers. White Allen quoted $31,000 (incl. base and destination; +TTL+doc) for the EX-L (for RES I would have to add $1500) which became my low ball offer. I was hoping to get $30,500 from them, but invoice prices went up on post-April units due to a mfg. price increase. I emailed the local dealers and instead of giving them this price (since I was focused on getting the EX-L for under $31,000) I told them that the car was being purchased for under $30,000 for EX-L and around $31,500 for EX-L with RES (in CA, OH, MD & VA).
They balked, but I clearly stated that I had a quote from a MD dealer for less and that I was willing to drive down for the savings. My local dealer warned me against the hidden charges and how “concerned” he was that they were going to change their prices, add on other fees – I told them that I had requested total transparency and had every quote itemize all costs, so I was confident that I wasn’t being taken for a ride. They gave me their best offer (they are definitely the most competitive in pricing in my area) but it was more than I was willing to pay.
The next day I emailed two North Jersey dealerships and told them that I was going to make a decision in the next 72 hours and that I was pretty much set on driving to MD for the car unless a local dealership made me a better offer. I contacted Paul Miller Honda in West Caldwell and Mahwah Honda in Mahwah, NJ. Paul Miller came back with their best price (which was still not as low as I wanted; when I pressed them for their lowest price, they gave me a final number ).
The rep from Mahwah misread my “offer to beat” - I had written that I had a quote for [ $31,500 (incl. base+destination+doc) +TTL ] which he “misinterpreted” as 31,500 plus, destination and doc and TTL and said he could match it. When he called back with the numbers I told him his mistake and told him to make his best offer. We went back and forth and he called back with his final offer of $32,329 (incl. destination and doc) + TTL. I emailed this quote to Paul Miller and my rep said that the offer sounded too good to be true, but that in fact if it was true that it was a great deal that they wouldn’t be able to match, let alone beat.
I called Burns Honda and after some back and forth they said they would match it plus the cost of dealer installed accessories ($695 pkg, reduced to $400), but I would have to take an in-stock vehicle. They didn’t have my color and after all I went through I did not want to compromise on that. So, I went with Mahwah and had a very pleasant experience with the sales staff and finance office. They tried to sell me window etching and an extended warranty, but did not push once I declined. I would definitely recommend them, and it seems like a few people have bought vehicles from them on this forum.
I fully expect that prices will come down, maybe even as early as July 4th weekend, and definitely closer to the release of the 2013 models; but 2012 stock is limited in my color and I actually needed a reliable family car to enjoy the summer so we bit the bullet. I think I got the lowest price I could right now, for my region and am satisfied with the outcome.
Odyssey EXL with RES (Smoky Topaz with Truffle interior; no accessories) OTD: $34,992.60
#29027 of 30041 Re: Finally! Bought the EXL-with RES [odyforfive]
Jun 26, 2012 (11:25 am)
Hi odyforfive - who was your salesman (if you could PM me) as I am asking from Manwah and they are not budging from 32398 (plus destination).
#29028 of 30041 Re: EXL with RES - Personal Buying Experience in NJ [odyforfive]
Jun 26, 2012 (12:05 pm)
You buying experience mimic mine down the the NJ dealers that you worked with.
Congrats on a great price. There would have been holdback on that car of around $700 so Mahwah were probably not losing as much as you think. My EX-L negotiations were slightly hampered by a trade-in..... anything given on the new vehicle would likely be taken back on the trade. It all comes down to your personal comfort with the deal offered.
I will echo the great delivery by Mahwah. One of the best experiences I have had buying a car.