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#28341 of 30569 Re: Honda Odyssey Rated Not Reliable [soccermom_of_5]
Nov 03, 2011 (12:44 am)
It's because the Odyssey is produced and engineered in United States. Since 1999, Honda Odyssey has always been Honda's least-reliable car model. Honda's USA quality (meaning Honda cars produced in North America) is DIFFERENT to Honda's Japan quality, despite how many people will tell you or deny this claim, and I have many valid proofs to back it up. To sum it up quick, Honda built LESS-reliable cars than Toyota in North America, but Honda built MORE-reliable cars than Toyota in Japan, based on the 40-year average trend since 1970 provided by Consumer Reports. When the Honda Odyssey was first released in 1995 through 1998 and manufactured in Japan, it scored the HIGHEST in reliability of all any cars and trucks from all makes, and it was very extreme and overrated at that time. NONE of the new cars made today for the past 13-16 years can match the high reliability rating score with the 1995-1998 Honda Odyssey. When the Odyssey transferred production to North America in 1999, reliability sank by more than 70%, and it still continues to be at that range today. The Odyssey used to be Honda's most reliable car model, and it's now the least reliable Honda model.
And to make it even more embarrassing, Honda Accord is now the LEAST reliable Japanese-brand family-sized sedan, according to Consumer Reports, when it used to be the MOST reliable, #1 Japanese sedan every year during the 1980s to the mid-1990s (10 straight consecutive years, 1983-1993). For the first time in 40 years of history, Mazda's family-sized sedan (Mazda 6) is rated more reliable than Honda Accord. How sad...
Something is very wrong at the Honda USA auto plants right now.
#28342 of 30569 Any odyssey inventory effect due to Thailand floods?
Nov 03, 2011 (10:57 am)
As all of you might have seen Honda has issued statement about Thailand floods impact.
According to Honda some of the US Honda vehicles (especially 2012 Honda CRV) are going to have impact due to this. But Honda doesn't exclusively say about Odyssey shortage due to this floods. Do you guys have any thought about Odyssey shortage due to this floods?
#28343 of 30569 Any good deals on EXL in DC metro area?
Nov 04, 2011 (12:06 pm)
I'm looking for Odyssey EXL in DC metro area. Please let me know any of your recent best deal with the dealer name.
#28344 of 30569 Re: San Diego County [quizzer]
Nov 05, 2011 (4:45 pm)
That is a great price. I have received quotes of invoice + $100 from a few dealers in the long beach area.
#28345 of 30569 Other Navigation options
Nov 06, 2011 (5:17 am)
I have been pricing EX-L w/RES and getting prices around $34500 not including TT&L. After taking my wife to see the van she said she wanted one with navigation, and sticking a garmin on the dash was not an option for her.
Has anyone taken one of these new vans and come up with a good option of navigation without wires everywhere and the nav unit falling off every weeks?
The difference in the price does not seem worth it when you could buy a $300 nav unit to do the job.
#28346 of 30569 Re: Other Navigation options [davidk12]
Nov 06, 2011 (12:51 pm)
You can go for after market install of Alpine or Kenwood or Magellan in dash gps.
#28347 of 30569 Re: Other Navigation options [quizzer]
Nov 06, 2011 (8:02 pm)
Take a look on Crutchfield online. They carry Pioneer AVIC and others. A good source of information.
#28348 of 30569 Re: Other Navigation options [davidk12]
Nov 07, 2011 (7:35 am)
When you say "sticking a garmin on the dash was not an option for her. " Do you mean physically not an option or she just doesn't want it there? Just curious. I ask b/c we too went through this debate.. sure we'd love to have the built in nav, but for 2K!? We just couldn't justify it based on how often WE actually use it, which is rarely. Those that use/need it everyday (salesmen, delivery people) or take frequent trips out of the area, I could see the desire. But we know our way to and from playschool, work, grocery store etc.
So we suck it up and pull the $150 Garmin out of the console and stick it on the window when we NEED it, which isn't often.
We also figured that most smart phones are basically GPS units themselves so we use those as well.
2K is just tough... we couldn't pull the trigger.
#28349 of 30569 Re: Other Navigation options [lithnights]
Nov 07, 2011 (8:21 am)
I agree with you. I don't know how the economics will work.
2K for Nav is too much when you get a decent GPS for $150.
In my case I will rather go for a DVD option compared to Nav.
Ofcourse you can get a IPOD for $300 but still kids can use DVD more often than me using a Nav.
#28350 of 30569 Re: Other Navigation options [lithnights]
Nov 07, 2011 (10:06 am)
Sorry this is probably the wrong forum for this question everyone.
lithnights: She does not want a garmin stuck to her dash (like she has now in her '03 Ody) Her argument is something around, if we spending so much money on a new van, why do we still want something stuck on the dash, falling off weekly, wires hanging all over the place. I honestly think Garmin does a better job of navigation than any in-car navigation. She would use it at least once a week, more of a "go home" use.
I see 2 things in the in-car nav I have in my sedan that are useful. 1) If you are listening to music, the music volume is reduced when navigation instractions are given. 2) I have the ability to send addresses from google maps on computer wirelessly to my car (VERY HANDY)
I would be concerned about replacing the whole head unit in the van, as you may loose other functions.
After doing some research, it looks like a popular gps mount is ProClip and if I could find a way to hide the wires and tap into 12 volt line on the left side of the steering wheel that would work.
The Nav option would cost me more like 4-5K as I would have to go from EX-L w/res to touring. The other option is to get EX-L w/NAV and give kids ipad's. Today we have the two screen dvd on the back of the headrests. Other than all the wires, the kids tend to abuse the screens with feet and getting in and out of van.