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Excellent Experience by siggie1
Nov 20, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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We just took delivery of a Taffeta White 2008 Odyssey Touring. We got if from Maroone Honda of Miami. Using the donkeypunch1 method I attempted to get quotes from every dealer in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties - and even some from Orlando - and then go back to the best to try and beat the lowest price, and Maroone's price was significantly below every other dealer. The salesperson I worked with (no names allowed!) is the Director of eCommerce. By the time the deal had concluded my email thread with him was, when printed, 27 pages. I have no idea how he put up with my endless requests for information and iterations of the deal that might yield a lower price. He was so knowledgeable, patient, and willing to communicate that I suggested to him that he host a Web discussion so that people can get answers from someone who is in a position to provide them. He said that he would consider doing that. Please reply to this post if you want such a discussion and what type of information you would want to know.
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Re: Excellent Experience [siggie1] by hepdoc
Nov 20, 2007 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: siggie1 (Nov 20, 2007 3:04 pm)

I am also looking into an 08 Touring. My question is regarding PAX tires or not? I have read reports that PAX tires negatively affect the ride and are expensive to replace. Anyone knows if this is accurate? .... and/or any advice regarding this option.
 
Also interested in advise to get a better deal. I also live in Miami. Thanks.
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Re: Looking in EX-L in Tristates [llbabu] by allison04
Nov 20, 2007 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: llbabu (Nov 20, 2007 1:36 pm)

Honda of Joliet, near Chicago. It was 25800 which included destination. We paid 6.5% tax,title and license was around 105. We financed with Honda at 5.4% after I told them my credit union rate was 5.75%.
The quote for an ex was 24000
exl was 25800
exl-res 27200
Did not get any quotes for Tourings
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Re: Excellent Experience [hepdoc] by cccompson
Nov 20, 2007 (5:30 pm)
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Replying to: hepdoc (Nov 20, 2007 3:33 pm)

There's an entire thread devoted to PAX here on edmunds as well as numerous discussion on the Odyssey owners' club website.
 
My two cents: My '05 Touring rides stiffer than my dad's '06 EX-L. PAX tires cost more to replace than than regular tires. PAX costs an extra $600 on the '08s.
 
What would I do if I was buying a Touring now? I'd get one equipped with PAX.
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Re: Excellent Experience [siggie1] by zizo1
Nov 20, 2007 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: siggie1 (Nov 20, 2007 3:04 pm)

May I ask how much did you pay for it? out the door (OTD)
Thank you
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Re: Excellent Experience [hepdoc] by siggie1
Nov 20, 2007 (7:09 pm)
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Replying to: hepdoc (Nov 20, 2007 3:33 pm)

The 07 Touring would have been less money than the 08 we just got, but the primary reason I would not consider an 07 was because of PAX. The problem with PAX, IMHO, is that the problem it solved, forcing you to change a tire by the side of the road, is not as great a problem as the one it caused: It can leave you stranded. For example, you're coming home from a weekend outing on a Sunday and you blow a PAX tire. You can drive for up to 125 miles, but where are you going to go? There are no Honda service departments open, and very few tire shops can fix or replace a PAX tire. If you had regular tires you could put on the spare, drive to a tire repair place, get the tire fixed, or replaced, and you're on your way. With PAX if there is a Honda dealer within the 125 mile range you drive there, even if it is out of your way, and hope that on Monday morning that dealer has the PAX tire in stock, and has the equipment to replace it. If not, what do you do, tow the car because of a blown tire?
 
As I stated in my earlier post. I got a great deal in Miami from Maroone Honda of Miami on the Palmetto at 57th. I contacted every Honda dealer in South Florida and no one came close to Maroone's price, and the service and attention I received from the Director of eCommerce was outstanding.
 
Here's some lessons I learned during my recent Odyssey acquisition:
 
1. When following donkeypunch1's method don't ask for mixed quotes. In my first emails I was asking for purchase price, lease terms, residuals, money factors. The request was confusing and didn't get me the results I wanted. It is OK to ask for multiple quotes, but don't ask for multiple quotes with multiple terms. Keep the first request simple, such as a purchase price or a lease payment. There will be subsequent communication where you can get the particulars, and then use the particulars to verify whether it is a real quote, or something just to get you in the door.
 
2. Although donkeypunch1's advice is solid, you need to talk to the dealers to get information. Email alone just won't cut it. If I had not talked to the eCommerce people at Maroone Honda I never would have known that Honda had offered a special lease deal in December 2006, and that they might do it again. Once they told me that I confirmed it by searching the Edmunds forums (following Reagan's old Russian proverb: Trust but Verify), but it would not have occurred to me to look for that on my own. By waiting just a few days until Honda introduced their special lease program for the 2008 Odyssey I saved over $30 per month on the lease payment.
 
3. Whatever deal you strike with the dealer get it in writing down to the last penny before you go to the dealership, and then print it out and bring it to the dealership with you and compare it line-by-line to what you are going to sign. Take as much time as you need to go over it line-by-line and figure-by-figure. If it is not exactly as agreed to, don't sign.
 
4. Don't feel foolish asking questions and expecting replies. The only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask. If a dealer gets impatient with all your questions, that's probably a dealer you don't want to deal with.
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Re: Excellent Experience [siggie1] by donkeypunch1
Nov 20, 2007 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: siggie1 (Nov 20, 2007 7:09 pm)

Siggie, I generally agree with you. To anyone following the collective purchase process suggestions that I've compiled, I'm by no means suggesting that you can't or shouldn't talk to an internet sales consultant over the telephone. What I am suggesting is that you initially request quotes via the internet. I have focused primarily on purchase and not lease, but would personally follow the same advice if I were to lease a vehicle. Keep the request simple: Model (ie, exl, exlres, color preference and that your looking for their best price (including destination) and the only extra should be tax, title, license. If you find it easier, request OTD (out the door) and then eventually ask them to itemize. Even if your intent is to lease, you should simply establish the capital cost (agreed upon purchase price) and then...not in initial mail, net out money factor, residual, and payment. You hit someone with this all at once and their heads going to be spinning.
 
After you get your quotes, take the lowest and go back to the others that produced higher numbers to see if they'll match/beat. When you get down to the final few dealers, now's the time to make a few calls, toss out a lower number, see if they will bite, etc. I do contend that if you start calling back the clowns that ask you to call for an appointment without providing any quotation, your going to be wasting your time. I also can't stress enough that whatever is discussed/committed to, that you get them to send it to you in writing, print and bring it with you. Error on the side of conservation and document every detail.
 
I personally haven't leased a vehicle, but would be really surprised if honda's "advertised" specials are the best price you can get. Just talking about 'lopping' $40 off or whatever per month usually isn't going to cut it, unless you negotiate a purchase price and then work back into the monthly payment/terms.
 
Regarding phone contact, all I'm suggesting is that they don't need your phone number and you don't need to start pounding the phones out of the box. Get some quotes, work them online then make a few calls for final details and "best and final" offers. But then get it in writing.
 
BTW, I have zero ties with capital one or costco. I like someone's suggestion about getting a check from a credit union to purchase the vehicle and then tell the dealer you have 5.25 from the credit union. You typically won't find money for 5.25 from anyone online, but a credit union is very possible. The bottom line is that you must get preapproved and have a check with a rate you can live with if the dealer doesnt match or better. I agree that your best chances of getting below 5.25 is credit union route.
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Re: Excellent Experience [hepdoc] by vinnyny
Nov 20, 2007 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: hepdoc (Nov 20, 2007 3:33 pm)

You've got to read the PAX discussion before you take the PAX plunge...
 
PAX tires cost twice as much to replace ($1200), service locations are limited (mostly at Honda dealers), and you usually have to wait for the dealer to order them (3-7 days). Many PAX owners complain of shorter tread wear--I only got 35k miles on mine and I'm religious about tire rotations and pressure checks. On the bright side, you won't have to stop in the ghetto to change a tire. Another positive note--the sidewalls on these things are almost indestructible--never got curb rash because of the thick ring that protrudes from the sidewall.
 
I bought my 06 Touring in the southwest--bad idea. No dealers for hundreds of miles when we traveled. Thankfully, we never had a tire failure out in the desert.
 
I bought my 07 Touring in VA. Now that I drive entirely on the east coast in urban areas, the PAX system makes sense--more dealers and more alternative modes of travel if I need to leave the van.
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Re: 2007 EX & EX-L [donkeypunch1] by ckennedy
Nov 20, 2007 (9:22 pm)
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Replying to: donkeypunch1 (Nov 20, 2007 8:57 am)

ok the one dealer (real you know what) matched my previous offer. Not sure what this did other then to annoy me. Went back to my faithful guy and he knocked another $100 off so down to $25,650 for EX-L. I know they are still making money the question is how much but the end is near. No real dark colors left but a deal is a deal. Dealer could not do better on the financing of 5.5% thru credit union and will take your advice and sell via Craig's List. Two other dealers quoted me much higher on the phone and told me to jump on this deal. Would like to seal the deal by next week the latest.
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2007 Odyssey EX in upstate NY by liverpool1
Nov 21, 2007 (5:30 am)
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After several emails to several dealers, the least quote of 2007 Odyssey EX is $23,900 (base + destination charges). I didn’t negotiate yet. How far can I go to get the car?

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