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Prices Paid: Buying & Leasing Experiences Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience
20779 messages, Last post on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:21 PM
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I called/emailed about a dozen dealers in the Chicago area, including those represented through Sam's Club and my credit union's buying service. Every one quoted MSRP. Wait time varied from 30-45 days on the low end to 4-6 months on the high end. Most said no packages, upgrades or accessories were required, though many happily offered them. A few hedged on it and gave vague answers. Some were rude and/or completely uninterested. I've heard some people might have negotiated under MSRP at Jacobs Twin Chicago, but I never got the details. Also, you pay almost 1% more there in taxes than, say, Rockford or Ottawa. I'd also be curious to hear about other's experiences for both sales and service in the Chicago area. As for interior colors, I don't think you have a choice. Each exterior color has a specific interior color which comes with it. |
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Actually, your typo might have been a Freudian slip. I believe that "goof guys" is about the best that one can hope for in car sales people. Therefore your comment, as typed, was just about the highest possible compliment any car dealers could expect to receive.
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MSRP for an Ody is not a bad deal. We have a nice allocation each month, 20 or so. They are sold in a matter of minutes. I am sure that there are some dealers in areas that don't turn them over as fast as we do, especially if they 'add on'. I ran into a customer that is "on the list" from another local dealer. They receive 8 per month, and will put you on the list for 500 under MSRP...but will not guarantee you a car. Does that make any sense? We guarantee each person a car at allocation day. Good luck to you. |
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| I'd say you get the ABSOLUTELY the minimum accessories for your Ody instead ordering a whole bunch of stuff. I learned my lesson: My dealer charged me $319 for cargo cover while their OWN parts department is charging $130.85. Do go to www.honda-accessories.com order all your accessories...don't get ripped off like what happened to me. | |
I bought a '01 SS LX at DPatrick Motorplex in Evansville IN. The flight from O'Hare to Evansville only took 25 minutes (air time). My salesman (Stephen Schweikarth) picked me up at the airport, we went to the dealership, signed the deal and I drove home. They were very low pressure and the deal was MSRP minus $800 + $75 documentation fee. I'm not the best at keeping up with the forum so if you would like more detail you can e-mail me at LVC2 webzone.net. Good luck.
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Went to Carr's Honda on Western Ave in Chicago to buy an Odyssey EX NAV with all the numbers figured out, and the salesman kept asking me if I was going to buy options....I didn't understand why he was so interested in that until he showed up with the contract with the options I'd requested priced out. Their prices on the options were 400% over MSRP! I asked them if these were MSRP and he said yes. I then pulled out a photocopy from the Honda price guide listing the MSRP (which I got from another dealer) and showed him he was lying. He went off and got the sales manager who told me that was what they wanted for the options and that they wouldn't sell the van without the options!!!!!! I could take it or leave.....needless to say....I hauled my ass out of there and call Honda corp. An example of their prices-- they wanted $399 for the roof rack crossbars which MSRP at $107. So if you want to buy a Honda, DON'T go to the lying b&^%$#*'s at Carr's Honda on Western Ave in Chicago! Unless you want to get taken! After reading other posts here I see that they are not the only dealers ripping off poor dumb consumers! So I would have to agree with the other people that say "DONT BUY THE OPTIONS" unless you get a good price for them. Here are some example MSRP prices off the list one dealer gave me (the 2nd number is the invoice number where I have it)- Splash Guards-$89 ($81) Cargo Tray-$99 ($61) Bike Attachment-$169 ($125) Cargo Cover- $99 Ski Attachment-$129 Roof Rack for LX-$299 My dealer in Gurnee was going to sell me the options for invoice....so I've got an order in with them for one. Rosen Honda in Gurnee IL has treated me very well! If you go there ask for Matt Weiner-he's been a great salesman for us! |
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Sorry to hear you had the same experience. I now knows why I got my Ody in 2 weeks instead of 6 weeks: I was dumb enough to agree to those outrageous prices without checking everything. I should have known not to trust ANY car salesman until they prove otherwise. Yes I did register my complaint with Honda. I doubt that's going to do me any good. I have also talked to the General Sales Manager and he insisted that I got a GREAT deal. Oh well. Price I paid to learn about Deceptive Trade Practice. |
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It appears as though Honda and its dealers have done an awesome job in marketing the Odyssey. Anytime someone pays MSRP and gets a couple of freebies they think they have been given a fair deal. In reality the manufacturer and dealer have walked away with thousands of YOUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS. A fair price for any new or late model car, truck or minivan is 100-500 dollars over invoice. I bought my last SUV and minivan at invoice. Even at invoice the dealer makes very good money considering the holdback and hidden factory incentives. By paying MSRP you also lose out on the resale and trade in values. Why do you think Honda is limiting production?? Enjoy being ripped off... |
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And what exactly did you pay in total dollars for your minivan? What did you get? If you think just because you paid what the manufacturer chooses to call "invoice" that you have gotten a great deal, then you are the sucker for that company's marketing. As P. T. Barnum pointed out, one is born every minute. I tell you what, we'll ask Honda to raise their MSRP to the ridiculously inflated level of the domestics (which only idiots pay) and then give you invoice at the current MSRP. I think you would find the deal better in total price paid for total product received and you'd then be able to gloat about your superior shopping ability since you could claim to have paid invoice price. The rest of us will realize that the difference is only in the labels used. Now, all of us will be happier in paying less and will do so when possible. But, in the meantime, it is still pretty much pay MSRP or close to it if you want an Odyssey at all. If you don't then be happy with your choice. But don't be so sure that the fool isn't the one who settled for less value so that he could trick himself with the manufacturer's arbitrary price labels.... |
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RESALE, RESALE, RESALE!! anafe: Yeah, it may be rewarding to battle the dark side in a showroom and ultimately triumph in the end with a "good" deal. For what, so the value of your van or suv can plummet as it seems all domestic products do. Now if you have Toyota products, it's another story. Honda's resale value will be based on MARKET CONDITIONS and if 99% of buyers paid MSRP, you can bet resale value will follow that figure. I'll sleep better at night knowing I have the most popular, best rated and most reliable van on the market. If paying "MSRP" is required for that peace of mind, then so be it. anafe: Don't be "ripped off" as well! |
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