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Replying to: kyfdx (May 04, 2006 3:59 pm) I agree completely with atuzai and adow1. It is one thing to control the content in the forum, but it is another to restrict free information exchange outside of the forum. This is particularly true when the information being exchanged does not "deprive the community of valuable information" because this information is not allowed to be posted into the forum in the first place (see Rules of the Road: 6. Posts about dealers). |
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We don't allow salesperson information to be exchanged in the forums, because the forums are consumer oriented. Allowing that exchange tends to attract shills, promoting their dealerships... and ultimately renders these types of forums useless... as they become one big advertising blog.. We also discourage "e-mail me" posts, though they are permitted. However, if you are expressly asking for or offering the same information that is prohibited in the forums, then the effect is the same, and those posts will be removed. To answer the specific question.. The information isn't being requested outside the forum, it is being requested here... or offered here.. "Please e-mail it to me" defeats the purpose of the rule. Last... but not least... if you have any other questions about how the forums are moderated, or the rules... please drop me an e-mail (or any other host). We like to keep these types of discussions out of the forums, as well.. but, I thought this might be instructive for the group. Thanks for your cooperation.. kyfdx Host-Prices Paid Forums |
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Replying to: cccompson (May 04, 2006 2:25 pm) Incentive money belongs to the DEALER, not the CUSTOMER. Now, the dealer can use those dollars in order to make an otherwise impossible deal. I try VERY hard to bite my tongue in some of these Prices Paid forums but I do find some of these prices...well..."over enthusastic". |
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As long as people make informed decisions and are comfortable with their deal they should just enjoy the van  My feeling is that if you get near, at, or below invoice on a Honda Odyssey, you did just fine. There will always be someone who got a better deal than you (whether it is "enthusiastic" or not) and you cannot control that. As isellhondas eluded to, dealers have the ability to make a deal happen if they want to, but all deals are not the same. Alot of it has to do with what region of the country you live in and how a vehicle is selling. Why would a dealer lose money on a deal if there are three people willing to pay more money? Likewise, if a van of a less popular color has been sitting on a dealer lot for 90 days he may be willing to make a deal to move that particular van off the lot..
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Replying to: dc_driver (May 05, 2006 6:49 am) The Ocean Mist Metallic Odysseys NEVER sit on a lot in this area. That is why the best deal I was offered last September was about MSRP less $ 500 and the dealership required that I place a $ 500 NON-refundable deposit to put my name on the waiting list for an Ocean Mist Metallic 2006 Odyssey EX (cloth). Ironically, my nephew got a NEW white 2005 Odyssey EX (cloth) from the same dealership on November 30, 2004 for more than $ 3000 BELOW MSRP. The light yellow/tan interior just did not appeal to people in this area, November 2004 was a VERY slow month for that Honda dealership, and the White Ody EX (cloth) had sat on the lot for some time.
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Replying to: sgolvan (May 04, 2006 9:54 am) Reply | E-mail Msg Replying to: jaepyoung (May 03, 2006 11:53 pm) My opinion is that OTD is never a good measure for price quote. That leaves room for price manipulation, such as fees. Since you can't get away from tax and registration so you should take those government mandated items out of your equition. You never ask a grocery story or department store for out of door price, do you? Otherwise you should do all your shopping in Daleware (just kidding). There is no sales tax there. I submit that OTD is all that matters. Who cares how they manipulate the fees, taxes, etc. I care what I am paying out of my pocket. IF it works out better for them to shift the numbers around, it gives me a better chance of saving some money. If you are not a good negotiator, use your email to request price quote. I don't think you are worse than I am (or rather, I don't really care that much). In email, you don't play on their turf, rather, you are in control. If the price is not acceptable to you, you don't have to buy. Don't be surprised if they supposedly made a mistake when you come in to pick up the van. 
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Replying to: hansienna (May 05, 2006 8:23 am) It's funny, I was all set to buy the Slate Green EX-L Odyssey, and when the sales person drove me down the lot to look at the color (I test drove a Sage Brush), I spotted the Ocean mist and loved it (so did my wife). The saleswoman told me that this was the only Ocean mist EX-L at the dealership, and that they sometimes have people waiting on lists to get this color. Well, we bought it immediately, and the nice thing about Hendrick is that the color of the van was never factored into the price. We basically negotiated the price of the EX-L and I could pick out any color I wanted (I do admit, I loved the olive trimmed leather in the Sage Brush we drove). I actually really like the look of the white Odyssey with the tan interior. White cars really hide the dirt well. After trading in my black Altima, I decided to stay away from dark colors for now (way too much work, although I love the look of a clean black vehicle)...
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The dealer where I bought mine had 3 or 4 Ocean Mist EX-L RES and EX-L R&N. I saw them more 2 weeks ago and today I came back to pick up the cargo tray and mats and saw 2-3 of them still on the lot. They are not selling as fast, Sage Brush and Slate Green on the other hand are selling pretty fast. I was all set with the Slate Green and found out there's no Ivory Int to go with that  . Grey is way too dark and Olive is too light. It would be tough to keep Olive clean but it looks so attractive. I ended up with the Sage Brush with Ivory. I need to find time to keep that sucker clean, a lot of real estate to wax 
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Replying to: dc_driver (May 05, 2006 11:12 am) The Sage Brush is gorgeous when clean and the sun is shining brightly while the Ocean Mist looks very attractive whether the sun is shining or not.  Slate Green reminds me of dirty dish water with or without sunshine. The Ocean Mist Metallic is the first blue color of ANY manufacturer in many years that appeals to either my wife or myself. The grey cloth interior appears to have a bluish tint in the Odyssey EX. Much nicer than the dull grey cloth of the DC or Sienna minivans. |
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