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Pricing
by kirstie_h HOST
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Aug 05, 2005 (7:26 am)
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Please stick to pricing & the purchasing experience in this discussion. Off-topic posts have been removed.
kirstie_h
Roving Host
Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
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- #10309 of 24381
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2005 Honda Odyssey Price paid and projected monthly cost
by hrao
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Aug 05, 2005 (8:46 am)
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What would be the monthly projected cost to owner given the prices paid as shown on Cars.com or Edmunds TMV.
Following are ALG projections.
Honda Monthly price paid
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- #10310 of 24381
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Re: Ody EX-L w. RES and NAV - Phila, PA [whatever67]
by starbux4me
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Aug 05, 2005 (9:59 am)
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Replying to: whatever67 (Aug 04, 2005 6:44 pm)
Hey, I was down the DE beach way, and went to Pohankin in Salisbury MD. I feel like I got a good deal. Your van, as I see on Edmunds invoice listing is $31,364 with destination and before the options &ttl etc. So, you have to decide if that's a good deal or not really. How important are the options? Are you willing to say forget it, if they don't budge anymore. As for timing, they already know they need to sell cars to make money. I've worked for car dealerships. If they're having a slow day, they'll bend over backwards. If they're just trying to end the day and go home, forget it. On my deal they were giving me the "well we have a sale on this vehicle tomorrow, a guy is coming in, or they had another dealer going to buy it from them for their customer..." stuff. Like, either way they were selling it, so you're not special. That's a load. Know your #'s, know when to NOT say anything. I LOVE that uncomfortable silence. It's like waiting to see who's gonna blink. HEHEHE! Want me to go with you!>!>!>!?!?!?  Oh, and they do the old, well the new models aren't coming in til probably October, so we really don't need to clear the old ones out yet... bull. They gotta sell a car to make money to put food on the table! And make sure you say "I thought this was a clearance?!?!? That's not a clearance price" a few times. Invoice-- they want you to think that's all they make on the deal. NOT. Kickbacks, financing, the trade, the extras. Don't let them fool you. They'll rip yer lips off if you let them.
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- #10311 of 24381
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What's Out the door include?
by crystaltod
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Aug 05, 2005 (10:10 am)
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Some say OTD +ttl and then some just say OTD.
What is the correct usage of OTD?
Thanks
Crystal
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- #10312 of 24381
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Re: Pricing [kirstie_h]
by mich_chow
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Aug 05, 2005 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Aug 05, 2005 7:26 am)
Did you just delete them or moved them to another thread? I would leave the posts (that are off-topic) here for (say) a couple of days and would ask the owner to remove or post it in the appropriate place. You can either delete or move them after 'so' many days if the owner does not take action. So that we can read the posts and then they can be moved to more appropriate place (if any). I would not 'delete' the posts without giving the owner a chance to move or readers a chance to read. I understand that this is just for pricing and buying experience, but I would not delete someone thoughts and (hard) work without giving them a chance. Thank you.
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Re: What's Out the door include? [crystaltod]
by jipster
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Aug 05, 2005 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: crystaltod (Aug 05, 2005 10:10 am)
Out the door means price, taxes, fees...everything paid to dealer is totalled into one price. Many use this OTD method of pricing in presenting a offer to a dealer.
i.e "Mr. Dealer...I will give you an OTD price of $28,000 for that yeller Ody EX sitting over yonder"
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- #10314 of 24381
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Re: Bought EXL in WA, $750 over Invoice. [roastboar]
by needaminivan2
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Aug 05, 2005 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: roastboar (Aug 02, 2005 2:39 am)
Can you tell me which dealer you got this deal from? I'm down in Vancouver, WA and have quotes from Portland to Seattle and nothing less than $600 below MSRP for an EXL RES NAV. The Best quotes I have are:
EXL - $29950 + ttl
EXL RES - $31599 +ttl
EXL RES NAV -$33663 +ttl
No one is budging in the area so any help would be great!
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Re: Goodbye Honda [bshawn]
by hrao
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Aug 05, 2005 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: bshawn (Apr 27, 2004 10:14 am)
Resale values for Honda projected by ALG and Edmunds are somewhat overrated.
even with ALG projections, monthly ownership costs are still high for honda.
Monthly ownership costs
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- #10316 of 24381
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Re: Silver EX-L RES in DFW Experience [sccrzeus]
by zebra5
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Aug 05, 2005 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: sccrzeus (Aug 04, 2005 11:26 am)
Wow, reading your post just elevated my blood pressure. Sccrzeus, I commend you on not "going postal" during your experience, and having the discipline to factually present your experience for us DFW readers in this forum. Your post should be required reading for auto sales managers everywhere. Unfortunately, I don't think for a minute this approach is unique to Vandergriff. I've personally had a similar bad experience at a John Eagle dealership (which you apparently liked) two years ago: I wasted three painful hours of my life there that I'll never get back, and I haven't set foot in any dealership since.
I have several genuinely serious questions, for any "insider" on this forum with the courage to tell the truth:
1) Is it clear to the auto sales management that follow these forums why the majority of people find shopping for new cars unenjoyable?
2) Is the sales approach of Vandergriff which sccrzeus described in effect a "profit-maximizing approach" employed on popular car models in high demand?
3) Do some dealerships intentionally orchestrate the sales approach like that, or did sccrzeus just simply stumble across gross ineptitude and a display of bad faith?
Seriously, I want an '05 Ody, but I think I'll just hold onto my nine year old car till it drops dead. Who needs this aggravation anyway?
- zebra5
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Re: Silver EX-L RES in DFW Experience [zebra5]
by looking4honda
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Aug 05, 2005 (11:53 pm)
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Replying to: zebra5 (Aug 05, 2005 10:55 pm)
I heard you. TWICE, i had the odyssey(s) confirmed with price, vin#, and other details but both dealers sold both minivans when i arrived at the dealership. This is in Southern California in the South Bay area. I'll post the dealer names after I file a complaint with the BBB and a letter to the attorney general because i am totally upset with their actions. 
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