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Replying to: isellhondas (Aug 04, 2005 6:51 am) Just guessing or wishful thinking on your part? Honda has acknowledged that the 2005 Odyssey launch was "bothced". Just look at the JD Powers New Vehicle Initial Quality rankings. A couple of the problems posted are serious and have the potential of a recall. Whether this happens or not depends on NHTSA. It is my wish that some day all cars be defect free and we have no recalls!
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Replying to: ttarkington (Aug 04, 2005 8:14 am) |
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 04, 2005 8:23 am) No chance of that, if NASA can't make the launch of the Shuttle defect free, it'll never happen for cars! |
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Replying to: vrm (Aug 04, 2005 8:23 am) There will never be a day when all cars are "defect free". As far as recalls go, there was a time not too long ago when there was no such thing as a recall. We just fixed the problems as they happened or we lived with them.
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Replying to: isellhondas (Aug 04, 2005 9:20 am) Recalls is a good thing. Hiding defects is bad. |
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The touring is nice. I got the sage brush color with gray int. I had the beige/tan in my 01. That sage color is the closest I want to black. I had a black truck once and a black car once... its just too hard for me to keep clean. not thrilled with a gray interior, but it's still nice. NASA, don't get me started on them. We spend how much on space? Don't we have bigger problems to deal with on earth first? Anyway, loving the new ody.
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Replying to: starbux4me (Aug 04, 2005 10:01 am) kirstie_h Roving Host Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
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What is the best price in Chicago-land ?
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Replying to: tukanglibas (Aug 04, 2005 10:33 am) |
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I have seen a number of posts about purchasing Odyssey's in DFW and wanted to share my experiences Here is my brief experience in Dallas/Ft Worth... After sending out my emails, the only dealers around who were willing to deal were Vandergriff and John Eagle. David McDavid of Frisco was offering invoice+$500 on anything in stock, but they did not have the color I was looking for. David McDavid of Irving was only willing to offer 1500 under MSRP. John Eagle came in at $100 over invoice but again only had the van in Sage at the time. So my only option at the time was Vandergriff who said they would not lose me over price. After emailing with Vandergriff, I finally went in and began to negotiate. I was looking forward to talking this out with them and hopefully getting this deal done that day; however, my very first impression came when sales rep #1 came and met me and within 5 minutes informed me that the model they had in stock (my wife called only a few hours earlier), was in fact not. Then we sit down and I re-inform them what I am looking for in terms of a vehicle. After letting sales rep #1 write it all down he tells me that he will see what he can do. The first offer he came back with was MSRP for the vehicle and $2000 lower than wholesale on the trade-in along with the following "we include this on every deal" extended warranty, some $300 door ding package, and $200 tint for the front windows. I laughed to myself when sales rep #1 circled the OTD price for a EX-L RES (they did not have in stock) for $41,000. I then asked to borrow his pen and scratched out whatI told him I would not be buying and wrote what I though is a fair deal ($300 over invoice and 8500 for trade-in and no options). Sales rep #1 then leaves for what seemed like an eternity and then comes back with sales rep #2. #2 sits down and then begins to tell me that the first outrageous offer was just something that they had to offer because they know that they will have to come down. So far I am trying to be as friendly and honest as possible and was able to have #2 agree with me that my numbers were fair (I am trying to make this short). He then reaffirms that there is no Silver EX-L RES in stock, but they do have one with RES and NAV that they would be willing to sell me at the price of $300 over invoice and 8500 for trade in. Sales Rep #2 then says he will need to take it to the "man". After again waiting forever, sales rep #3 comes into the office (this was the original salesman I had been emailing with) and begins to start all over again with the whole MSRP talk. I asked him if he had the chance to talk with the other two guys I had already talked with. He said no so I quickly caught him up to speed. We then talked about the model with the NAV and, althought It was a bit more, I spoke with my wife and we agreed that it may be a good buy for the price, so I agree to take a look at this other "new" van. #3 pulls the van up and I look inside. Looks pretty good I say until I notice how many miles are on the odometer....3000 miles. I immediately point this out to #3 and tell him that this is basically a "used" vehicle. He tells me that it is a "new" car because it has not been titled. I just laughed. He then asked me what we were to do. I told him that I would need some sort of compensation for buying a vehicle that is "used" like an extended warranty, etc. We go back into the office and he tells me that he will have to talk to the "man". This is where Vandergriff shows it true colors. As I am walking around the showroom floor waiting for #3 to come back, I am grabbed by sales rep #4 (I will call him Alex...well, because that was his name). Alex,sales manager, has me come into the office and we sit at #3's desk. Alex begins to go into his routine he has probably done for many years. I, being a young spikey blond haired guy, was supposed to realize that I had no idea what I was talking about and that he was bringing the real wisdom to the table. He began to explain why they low balled me on my trade and that he used to work at a Chevy dealer so he really knows what the actual trade-in value should be. That did not work because I had received a few other quotes from some other dealers, so I knew what the number should be close to. Continuing to speak with his smug attitude and his constant need to interrupt me, he looks at me and asks "You really don't like doing this, do you?" .............. As shocked as I was, I looked back at him and politely said "No, actually I just don't like being interrupted." At that point, he tried to make the discussion all about the payment by saying that it was pointless to talk about the "hard numbers" (this was after I told him I was buying with a check from a Credit Union so I would worry about what my payment would be). To try and wrap this up, he then asked me what I wanted, I told him and he went back into the "office". After passing the 3 hour mark of being patient and trying to work with sales reps #1-4. Alex comes back out and tells me that the offers I had agreed with with #1-3 was out the door and they would only offer the van to me at $1000 over invoice. I said thanks but no thanks and walked out after being "shown the door" with the price they offered. I was never mean, offensive, rude, or impatient. My goal was to have it be a fair deal. Apparently Vandergriff had other things in mind. Basically what I learned is that I will never go into a dealer again without a firm price already agreed upon. Over the next day or so I recontacted John Eagle Honda in Dallas. It was the absolute easiest transaction of my life. The sales rep I talked to had the exact model coming in from a dealer trade. I went in to the dealer and negotiated the trade last Fri. On Tuesday evening, He brought the van to me and then came Thurs morning and picked up the check from the credit union for the rest of the financing. We got the van for invoice +$100 and the only extras we paid for was tinted windows as well as the protection package. In the end we were at 29960 + TTL w/o the decent value I received for my trade. I would highly recommend the sales rep I used just based on the customer service (PM me for additional info). Now I get to enjoy my new Odyssey...well my wife's new Odyssey.  -sccrzeus |
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