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Replying to: muddyriverduck (Jul 25, 2005 6:48 am)
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Replying to: tommy_2q (Jul 25, 2005 1:52 pm) |
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Based on your name it sounds like you are a fellow PSU Alum. We recently purchased an Odyssey from Lehigh Valley Honda (60 miles north of Philly) because the northern VA dealers wouldn't budge on price. One northern VA dealer even insisted on the typical add on paraphernalia. We received a similar deal as the post in 10154. It was actually an enjoyable experience working with the sales people and the sales manager from Lehigh Valley Honda. Check the clearances: The two points that would hit the ground would be either the front or rear overhang since you indicated your driveway is steep. If you had indicated your driveway has a large hump then the undercarriage would be susceptible to hitting the high spot. Take a tape measure and measure the height of the front and rear overhangs from the street on your sister's Odyssey. Then take the same measurements on on EX model on a dealer's lot. Make sure the tires are properly inflated on both vehicles. Then cut 2 pieces of foam that are the same thickness as the difference in heights between the 2 vehicles. One will be the thickness for the rear overhang and the other the thickness of the front overhang. My guess is each piece of foam should be about 3/4". Tape these foam pieces on the low point of each overhang on the Touring model. The bottom of the foam now represents the low points for the EX model. Drive up and down the incline and see if the foam scrapes. If the foam does touch the ground then even the Touring with 17.5" wheels could be susceptible to scraping based on: - how many passengers are in the van - how much other weight is in the van - if the tires are under inflated - the speed at which the incline is encountered - the angle at which the vehicle approaches the incline. Use of a demo and a sales person's time: Not sure if it works this way at all Honda dealers but at some dealers (LV Honda included) Honda owns the demonstrator and not the dealer. However if I had no intention of buying a vehicle from a dealer, for whatever reason and that includes if I knew they won't compete on price, I wouldn't consume any time from their sales staff nor would I ask to use the demo. My belief is it's not the sales person making the decision to not compete on price so let the sales staff spend their time on prospective leads to earn their income. They also deserve to have the full use of the demo in this process. Good luck with your shopping and with your decision. Vince
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A customer walks in and wants to put 26 miles on a Odyssey they have already agreed to buy from another dealer. Most stores require the salesperson go along on test drives. So, that salesperson basically is going to spend 45 minutes demonstrating a car that he/she KNOWS the customer isn't going to buy? Maybe a sale will be missed during that 45 minutes. At least her husband was honest and upfront. Most people wouldn't have been. We all get our time wasted. It's a part of the job and I accept that. Still, it's frustrating! BTW, we have a lot of STEEP driveways around here and I haven't heard of any clearance problems. I did sell one to a guy with waterfront property who has a VERY steep driveway. He put a hitch on the back and that would scrape a bit until he learned to go in at an angle...no more problems. |
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Replying to: odymike (Jul 22, 2005 9:01 am) $25,627.03 asking price ($100 Over Invoice) OTD is $27,981.43 I got it in writing and scanned it to email attachment then submitted it to other dealers to see if they are willing to beat this price..waiting to hear back
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Replying to: lilolbrenn (Jul 26, 2005 9:16 am) Thanks |
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Does anyone have experience with hauling 2 canoes on a 2005 Odyssey EX. Can't find any of the rack people (Thule / Yakima) with anything other than using the factory rails with their cross bar mounts. The factory rails are very short and far to the rear of the roof and am concerned about cross wind stability. Also not too sure where to attach bow lines to the vehicle other than coming out from under the rear of the hood. Would appreciate any input. |
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Replying to: eradicator (Jul 26, 2005 11:48 am) I can email the print out they gave me if need be. E-mail me for request lil_ol_brenn  yahoo.com. The dealership was stern on sticking to the price of $26510 for the EX style until I brought up this little bit of info (below) o them letting them know that if they brought it close to invoice they are still making a profit. They could not argue the point ...Honda dealers get a 3% holdback thewy offered to sell at $25,627.03 w/o TTL. True dealer invoice price for my zip code should be $25,012 but I thought this was a fair deal and didnt push to much further. Holdback is kept secret from the buyer. It’s hidden in the vehicle’s invoice price and not listed on the window sticker. In most cases, you’re best bet is to avoid discussing holdback money until the dealer delivers a sermon about selling at invoice cost and not making any money. If the dealer must special-order the vehicle, or you know it’s hot off the assembly line, use the holdback money to your advantage
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Replying to: roastboar (Jul 15, 2005 6:46 pm) I would also recommend Moses Lake Honda's internet dept as well and would have bought there but needed the van sooner. You will love the van... |
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Replying to: lilolbrenn (Jul 26, 2005 3:48 pm) Holdback is NOT profit that falls to the bottom line. There is a seperate discussion on holdback in Smart Shoppers that you should read. Holdback isn't a "secret" either. This gets brought up in these forums every day. holdback ***helps*** pay for flooring and advertising. Seriously, if someone wants to talk about holdback, we should talk about this little thing called OVERHEAD. People have no idea of the tremendous costs involved just to open the doors every day. B&O taxes are a killer too. If that dealer lowered his price in order to make a sale, it wasn't because you brought up holdback. It's the market that determines pricing.
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