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#3420 of 3687 Re: 2001 Sienna Oil Change, plug loss, leaks all the oil, now what??? HELP [2k1sienna]
Oct 29, 2005 (6:30 pm)
I would bring it to Toyota and let them hear it see what they say. Without letting them know what happened.
I think the engine might have a 60,000/5 year drive train warranty I'm not sure. You might be able to get it worked on for free at Toyota. I would not tell the tech what happened though. Also Toyota may want oil change receipts to cover warranty. Just play dumb if you need to as much as you can. Buying it used wont help you much here either.
If Toyota says nothing wrong visually or by sound, I would still have them run pressure tests on the cylinders or some way to test the engine performance. So you have something in writing, after it is done. That way if you have to go after the Mom and Pop you have something. The cost should be very minimal, but would be well worth the test.
As far as Mom and Pop go, I've had bad service done to me in the past as well. They never take responsiblity. They also usually win in any court case. You might need legal help to get them to pay for damage. It's basically your word against theres. Don't spend too much money going after them its a dry hole. As sad as it you may have to use them to fix it if they agree they are at fault. Bring a friend with you as a witness on what they say I guess. They are experts at denial however.
When you stopped and saw it leaking it should have stopped you in your tracks. Also if no oil the thing should have been smoking and smelling bad for blocks. If it didn't smoke and smell it might have been short enough not to damage. Might have overheated the valve and cylinder and caused some warping to the cylinder.
That might be the noise the scrapping of the parts. If it is this gas may get into the oil and really cause you grief. Theres a way to check oil for gas the techs know how to do this. If think if you pull the dipstick and put a match to the dip stick and it lights it has gas in it. I'm not sure though.
Synthetic Oil may help you in the future. Who knows the engine might not be that damaged.
Everytime someone works on your car you have to check their work. I dont care who it is. This could have just as easily been done by the dealer. Everytime I get an oil change I keep it off my pavers because undoubtfuly it will leak. Always a good idea to check under the car as well as keep an eye on the temp gauge in the car.
One last note. My Sienna was bought new in 2001. The damn engine was always loud. You may not have noticed it before. Start up a used one at the dealership and listen for yourself. It could be the normal noise. I'm not kidding here either, my wive always complains about the noise. It is a lot noiser when the AC is on though, the reverse of yours.
Last bit of advice:
Trade the car in at a dealership( hopefully not the one you test it at if theres a problem) and get rid of the problem if it bugs you a lot. It would save you a lot of grief.
By the way you got a good price on that van. If it is in decent shape.
#3421 of 3687 Re: 2000 Sienna XLE Power Door Problem/Solution [gmac0927]
Oct 30, 2005 (3:41 am)
thanks for the kudos, but they are really undeserved. many people with door problems (make doesn't matter) find that cleaning the contacts using a pencil eraser does wonders to improve operation. i was merely passing along what others have already posted...
edmunds is a valuable resource. pass it on.
#3422 of 3687 front and rear wipers, fluid pumps stopped working
Oct 30, 2005 (5:45 am)
I have a Toyota 1999 Sienna van.
I started the wipers up with heavy wet snow on the windshield, and they slowed to a stop, and then no longer work now, front and back. The washer fluid pump on the front and back windshield don't work either.
I would suspect a fuse, but I don't have the service manual, I looked in the fusebox and didn't see anything obviously blown.
Can someone tell me which is the fuse for the wipers in the fuse box, or if there is a circuit breaker or something to reset on the wiper motors. Since it is both motors and fluid pumps, I suspect it must be a relay or fuse someplace, but cannot figure out which one from the cryptic labels in the fuse box.
#3423 of 3687 Re: front and rear wipers, fluid pumps stopped working [hqmhqm]
Oct 30, 2005 (8:07 am)
Theres a 20 amp wiper fuse should be in fuse box. If you cant find it call Toyota and ask.
The motors also appear to have some kind of fuse/breaker it looks like 1/2 moon symbol. It is internal in the motors, if it burns out the motor loses connection to ground. You may have to remove a motor to get to it or look at it real good for a breaker. I doubt theres a breaker though, they always want you to buy a new part. If you can pull the motor off at least you have a shot at fixing the fuse yourself. Focus on the front wipers as the rear are useless anyway. Also call Toyota and ask if theres a breaker on the motor as well. For the most part they tell you stuff.
I would def change the regular fuse first though. Even if it looks good.
#3424 of 3687 Re: front and rear wipers, fluid pumps stopped working [gunga64]
Oct 30, 2005 (8:41 am)
One word for you: Owner's manual.
All the fuse locations are in there.
#3425 of 3687 Re: 2001 Sienna Oil Change, plug loss, leaks all the oil, now what??? HELP
Oct 31, 2005 (4:47 am)
some useful opinions all around. since you say the van has been with you only a week maybe the noise has been there from day one. we have a 00 sienna and it makes a small noise and is unnoticed by outsiders if i didnt tell them.
#3426 of 3687 Re: 2001 Sienna Oil Change, plug loss, leaks all the oil, now what??? HELP. [2k1sienna]
Oct 31, 2005 (6:58 pm)
As a professional mechanic let me add a few things.
Agree with the others - when that oil light turns on, turn the engine off!
As far as testing the engine for damage there are only two ways.
1) The ear. with the eng idling in Park, rapidly accelerate the engine (briefly - don't exceed 4000rpm) - if a knocking sound becomes evident (have someone listening under the hood) you may have bearing damage.
2) Visual inspection. A mechanic removes the oil pan and examines the engine bearings.
Bottom line. Oil contains additives to protect the engine in case of metal to metal contact - for a short time. Hopefully your drive back to the lube place was short and you didn't accelerate hard (load the bearings). I would expect lifter noise after such an incident but it should go away in a few miles. If you suspect there is damage take it to a shop to have the bearings visually checked - there is a fair chance that any damage is limited to the bearings, which can be replaced without removing the engine. If you keep driving the damage will get wor$e.
#3427 of 3687 2002 Sienna XLE JBL Sound System with AM Prob.
Oct 31, 2005 (7:46 pm)
JBL system works great except KOA, 850 AM has noticeable distortion. All other AM stations are fine. KOA is a 50,000 watt clear channel station and should come in great. Other vehicles and radios here get KOA with no problem. Got an exchange JBL radio/tape/CD unit from local Toyota dealer, installed and same problem! I guess that there must be some kind of radio frequency interference created by the engine management system or some other RF generator in the vehicle. Anybody have similar experiences/solutions/suggestions?
Jim in CO
#3428 of 3687 Re: 2001 Sienna Oil Change, plug loss, leaks all the oil, now what??? HELP. [passingby]
Nov 01, 2005 (4:02 pm)
Thanks everyone for providing me with all these valuable info. I hope that that you guys were right that the noise is there and I just didn't notice it. As for leaving the car in park, it is very quiet and no noise at all, as for my CE model, there is no Tach on it. But yesterday, I was on the highway and did almost 90mph and the car runs fine with no problem. I only hear the noise when i am waiting at the light with my foot on the brakes and listen very carefully, thats where I here the tapping noise. I guess I'll find out tomorrow as I have to drive long distance (60 miles). I'll report back once I get back on Friday and let you guys know if my engine is still in one piece.
#3429 of 3687 Re: 2001 Sienna Oil Change, plug loss, leaks all the oil, now what??? HELP. [2k1sienna]
Nov 02, 2005 (5:06 am)
The belts on the beast are pretty loud and could be considered a tapping noise as well. When I turn on the AC its very pronounced. Been like that since new however. How about you guys is your AC compressor kinda loud?
AC works fine been noisey since day one for me. Even after a belt change.