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#2177 of 3687 To buy or not to buy
Oct 13, 2002 (2:07 pm)
well, after reading most of the comments about the Toyota Sienna, I'd have to say I'm mortified! Just had a baby boy and my wife and I were getting ready to purchase a Used 1999 Sienna LE, 44350 miles on it....but now after all the comments on the oil sludge I admit I'm concerned. I called the owner and he reports no trouble except a recent leak in the valve cover gasket. He has used Mobil Synthetic oil (5W), and has changed it according to maintenance plan. This vehicle was manufactured in Ontario. Anyone have any suggestions/comments?? Thanks.
#2178 of 3687 Comment Requested?
Oct 13, 2002 (4:02 pm)
The sludge issue is, and has been, a grossly overblown issue, fostered by a small group of chronic complainers who used the internet irresponsibly to vent frustrations at the world in general.
Toyota has responded to this issue in an unprecedented manner by issueing what amounts to an 8 year warranty if sludge problems develop for any reason.
You have absolutely nothing to be concerned about in purchasing that Sienna.
Just an opinion.
Oct 13, 2002 (5:27 pm)
i bought a '98 Sienna w/ 54k miles on it earlier this year. the engine is touchier than others, apparently, and if the oil isn't changed, it'll sludge up. so will pretty much any other engine, if a little later.
but if you buy one used and it's sludged, toyota will make it right for you... there isn't another deal like that out there, so i saw it as an opportunity rather than a problem.
better yet, buy a new CE w/ the captain's chairs and the $900 rebate, and live happily ever after. you'll "save" about 15c/mile if you buy one used, and you'll be hard pressed to drive further miles for that kinda money ... if your credit's good, why not buy it new? i'm thinking about getting another one
if you can have it checked out; the right way to check for sludge is to pull the valve cover and check... the cheap way is to yank the pcv valve out (with really long pliers) and see if it's clear... that's the first thing to sludge up when things get serious, and it's downhill from there. mine's okay, praise allah.
East Lansing, MI
#2180 of 3687 Buy a new one
Oct 13, 2002 (6:09 pm)
You'll be able to treat it right, from the start; and the new grille/headlights are much cooler!
#2181 of 3687 RE: Sliding door problem
Oct 13, 2002 (7:26 pm)
In response to question about my post (#2090)...
The dealer never mentioned the cause of the problem. At first they wanted to replace the motor, then opted for the computer and junction box.
To Deg856: I would definately request to have your door fixed prior to 36K warranty.
I have a thought to press my other door a hundred times a day until the that door breaks prior to the warranty wearing out!
#2182 of 3687 2001 Sienna pass power sliding door problem!!
Oct 14, 2002 (9:58 am)
Same problem as others like deg856. Door opens but won't close when I press the button on dash or remote. Intermittent at first. Followed the ecu reset procedure in the users manual requiring battery disconnect. Worked OK for 3-4 days then problem was back. Reset again several times but no luck. Took it to dealer and he said Toyota just came out with a new reset procedure but didn't know what it was. Apparently it didn't work... when I picked up the van, there was a back order for a new door ecu at $547.00!!!! (plus labor of course). Fortunately I'm at 31,500 and it's under warranty. Yikes, dodged a $800 tab. If you have a problem, get it into the dealer before 36,000 miles. Wonder why it's only a problem on the passenger side?
#2183 of 3687 One more intermittent door!
Oct 15, 2002 (12:07 pm)
I experienced the same thing described by rfp1nc on my 2000xle. Brought it in 2x and they told me they could not identify anything wrong and I could not get it to "not work" in front of them. Now I am 45,000miles and not under warranty. Problem still occurs intermittently. I clean all contacts on door and frame, then squirt WD40 onto the latch on the bottom track (with a cable coming off of it), and it the problem "seems to" go away for 2-10 weeks. Looks like I missed out on warranty service.
#2184 of 3687 Sienna pass power sliding door problem!!
Oct 15, 2002 (9:04 pm)
I had the same problem with my 2001. Look at # 1219, 1246, 1248 and # 1367. It was a real pain for us. They replaced the (ECU) computer. I have the part number on post 1367. The door is still working great.
#2185 of 3687 RE: One more intermittent door! #2105
Oct 16, 2002 (7:22 am)
If you brought it in the first time and were still under warranty, there should be a record and Toyota should honor it under warranty. Interesting solution using WD-40 which suggests that the ecu detects a high motor load when trying to close the door. The resistance is interpreted as an obstruction... person, etc. and it stops closing as a safety measure. The fact that you have to repeat the procedure is probably due to the fact that WD-40 is not really a lubricant but an anti-sieze compound that evaporates promptly. Try a lithium base lubricant. The new ecu is probably set at a higher resistance level to accommodate a higher than expected load but could make the door more dangerous for small children.
Suggest you discuss with the dealer and/or Toyota rep since you brought it in while it was under warranty and they couldn't fix the problem. Always keep good records!
Oct 18, 2002 (1:03 pm)
I have a 2-year-old Sienna at 30k miles. I found my two front tires terribly worn out because of bad alignment. I am a very, very gentle driver and, never feel the misalignment while driving. I don't know if my warranty covers the alignment problem.
A big mistake is that I haven't aligned my car since I bought it new. Now I have to pay for the two new tires. Do you know how often should I do the alignment? Please advise. Thanks for your time.