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#2068 of 3687 What do you think my Toyota Used Car dealer will say?
Jul 29, 2002 (12:51 pm)
My wife and I purchased our first minivan on July 24th, 2002, Last Wednesday. After our rather good experience with our 1994 Camry with 147,000+ miles on it, we really wanted a Sienna.
We didn't want to invest $27,000 for a new Sienna so we searched for a nice used one. We found one at your local Toyota Dealership here in Traverse City, Michigan ( Traverse Motors, Inc.)
It was a 1999 Toyota Sienna in perfect cosmetic condition and ran and drove smooth as silk. It has 68,000 miles on it. We drove it off the lot last wednesday, July 24th, 2002. The next day the 25th, thurdsay we began to notice white/blue smoke on startup, not always the first of the day, but at different times during the course of the day. I called my salesman at first sight. His first thought and suggestion was moisture in the exhaust and was wondering if it was blue or just white. Its blue & white and a few times "plumed" out the exhause and over the van and down the windshield, viewed from the drivers seat! No it doesn't do it all the time, on all startups, but most. And its not as bad sometimes as others...it varies.
Anyway...my salesman told me to give the service department a call and schedule an appointment to have it looked any anyway - to be safe. This was Thurday and it was going to take a week, until this coming thurday to get it in.
IN HE MEAN TIME, I did some deeper research on the vehicle in general and thats were the ulcer started! I was jaw a gape finding all the talk about engine gelling/sludge, something I had never seen or heard of before, and surely never expected Toyota to roll something out the door with any major problems like this... I was in shock.
So, I purchased the 1999 Sienna with 68,000 miles on it USED. I understand that I am the second owner per the title. I notified the Toyota dealership the second day of ownership to bring to light what the vehicle was doing... It is supposed to have a 30 day/3000 mile warranty from the dealership. I have no PAST HISTORY of maintence of oil changes......
What do you all think they will tell me Thurday the 2nd of August when I bring the Sienna in to get checked out? =)
Traverse City, Mi
Jul 29, 2002 (2:53 pm)
If it is what you think it is, you should be able to get relief under what is called an SPA. It is my understanding that Toyota has been pretty generous when it comes to used car buyers. My guess is that your dealer will coordinate a claim with Toyota. If they don't contact Toyota yourself. Check the Toyota response topic to this issue for contact information.
#2070 of 3687 Sling Door Panel, Touch Up
Aug 01, 2002 (5:46 pm)
My Sienna recentlky got a scratch and visible ding on the passenger side sliding door. I think that if only I could get to the inside of the door, I could probably push the ding out.
Does anybody know how to remove the sliding door back inside panel?
I also retouched the scratch with the Toyota touch up paint pen. Is there a batter way to retouch it?
#2071 of 3687 Sienna Sticky Door
Aug 02, 2002 (10:53 am)
I have a 2000 LE with a couple of sticky sliding doors. I noticed another poster said they belive it was liquid from a spilled childs drink. I would be dubious of this answer. This is what my dealer told me when I first brought it in. I have had this problem for three years and have learned to live with it. Nobody has posted on this board how to fix this problem, but a number of people have posted about the sticky sliding door problem.
My vehicle is at the dealer as we speak. I told him/her that this is my number one priority to get this thing fixed. I have tried silicone spray, cleaning the door, other lubricants. Nothing works. The problem is much, much worse in the winter. I live in VA.
The dealer knows all about the sticky latch problem and I suggested they change those. I figure I'm going to have to learn to live with this problem.
For those researchers, the door only has the problem on the first open. Once I get it open I can open and close it at will.
Aug 02, 2002 (12:32 pm)
Which dealer is your van at?
#2073 of 3687 The Verdict - Sludged Engine - 1999 Sienna 68,000 miles
Aug 02, 2002 (7:06 pm)
Ok, after waiting two days in the dealership shop, the verdict was after all, sludge. They are going to "rebuild" the engine, not replace it. My van went in running great, just had blue smoke at startup, sometimes with or without a warm engine. They said it would take about a month to get the work done as there are currently 5 vehicles before me! The serviceman said that he was doing them on a first come first serve order. oh well... They told me to come back and pickup the van and drive it, just make sure you keep oil in it...
I am wondering about what a "rebuilt" engine is? And what is thought about rebuilt engines? Whats the gig with a rebuilt engine? Better then before, like new? Is there usually a "break-in" period like a new engine? Is a "rebuilt" engine a good deal? Can I think of it as setting my odometer to Zero? Please throw some opinions at me!
#2074 of 3687 The Verdict - Sludged Engine - 1999 Sienna 68,000 miles
Aug 03, 2002 (5:38 am)
As far as rebuilt engines, there are also re-manufactured engines. When I replaced my Jeeps engine, I went with a re-manufactured engine. A re-manufactured engine has more new parts, some even claim they are better than new.
Do a search on remanufactured vs. rebuilt engines and you’ll find some interesting facts.
Aug 03, 2002 (7:05 am)
What they will do isn't exactly a rebuild but I guess it could be called that. The disassemble the engine down to its component parts. Most of the parts only need a cleaning. After they are cleaned, they are inspected. If they are damaged or out of spec in any way, they are replaced. You will also get the new valve cover which has a different part to reduce the chances of a recurrence. It is a VERY involved process. The end result will be equivalent to a new engine.
So, you didn't have any problems getting this repair covered did you? That's good news.
#2076 of 3687 1999 Sienna XLE sliding door (drivers side) Problem
Aug 03, 2002 (8:36 am)
Has anyone else experienced "creaking" and a slight "rattling" from the sliding door on the drivers side? If so, is there a fix for it? The dealer claims not to hear it when we bring it in, but having just returned from a 1200 mile trip - I can attest to its existence!
#2077 of 3687 Engine Stalling
Aug 03, 2002 (9:05 am)
Recently, my 98 Sienna LE (43000 miles) dies during startup. It has happened in or after a raining day. The engine would start but idle speed quickly drops to 0. On second crank, engine starts normally. The odd thing is the stall happens after 2-3 startups which means engine is already at its normal operating temperature. I change my engine oil religiously.