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#1776 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [chessor]
Jun 03, 2009 (10:40 am)
Have you checked the computer for any stored diagnostic codes? It sounds like it could be either the air temperature sensor or map sensor. They are an easy place to start. If you do not have a code reader or know how to get them with the key method, you can go to any autozone store and they will check for codes for you. If the check engine light is not staying on, it could be an intermittent code.
#1777 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [chessor]
Jun 03, 2009 (12:39 pm)
This could be a number of problems so getting codes read is the first step for sure.
The tps (throttle position sensor) or air idle motor are 2 common causes as they are moving parts and wear out or get sticky.
Does it idle smooth or rough?
If it nice and smooth then that should rule out a vacuum leak.
#1778 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [chessor]
Jun 04, 2009 (6:54 am)
Many years ago we had a 91 Caravan that had a stalling problem. As I recall, the fuel injectors needed a cleaning; after the fuel injection service it ran fine. Good luck.
#1779 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [leadfoot69]
Jun 04, 2009 (8:28 am)
While I do agree that these could also be a possible source of his problem, I started with the Air temp sensor and map/MAF sensors, because he stated that the problem seems to be temperature related and usually occurs when the vehicle comes up to normal operating temperature. In my experiences with cars, that would usually point to the items I mentioned. I have had vehicles with problems with IAC and TPS, but I have never had them acting up or fail as a temperature related problem, only from wear or electrical failure. As far as the suggestion of the injectors someone else mentioned, I think that would more then likely cause a rough running engine or acceleration problem, or even a start/no start condition as opposed to stalling when reaching operating temperature.
#1780 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [joepeterson56]
Jun 04, 2009 (8:54 am)
I agree. If it consistently manifests after reaching operating temperature, it points to sensors that come online at that point rather than an always-on sensor or a mechanical source.
#1781 of 2083 Re: 1996 dodge caravan 3.0 [xwesx]
Jun 04, 2009 (11:06 am)
Don't leave out the O2 sensor in that mix. I believe most engines run "open loop" (in that the output of the O2 sensors are ignored) for a couple of minutes upon start up, until the O2 sensor has a chance to warm up. The ECM uses one of the existing temperature sensors to figure out when this is.
#1782 of 2083 Re: Transmission Problems [robopolo]
Jun 06, 2009 (7:08 pm)
Okay y'all --- Here is the fix. I took it to a mechanic and he said start by replacing the ECM (Engine Control Module) to take care of the P0601 code. Chrysler dealer wanted $750 for a new ECM & $200 to program it (insert VIN # and Milage etc). I searched ebay and found this place in Florida (SOLO AUTOMOTIVE COMPUTERS, 1-800-886-9926 soloautocomcast.net) and paid $225 for a refurbished with all of the programming done and free shipping and lifetime warranty (as long as I own the vehicle). I installed it and it took care of the P0601 code but the transmission still would not shift. I read online and a Chrysler Mechanic said everytime he has seen the P0605 it has been a bad TCM (Transmission Control Module). I bought a refurbished one from SOLO for $230 free shipping & programming & lifetime warranty. I put it in an whala transmission started working and all error codes were gone. I hope this will be usefull to someone. I spent $455 and fixed it myself --- a dealer would have wanted $1500 to $2000 to fix it. So I saved $1000 to $1500 ---- That makes working on your own vehicles worth while!!!
#1783 of 2083 Re: 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan-catalytic converter? [anotherday2006]
Jun 26, 2009 (9:49 am)
Did you resolve your problem? I have the same exact symptoms... it's like there's a rev limiter at 3500rpm whether its reve'd up with no load in park or driven with load in any gear (auto trans). The same code you got also came up (P0016) but I want to know the actual problem since you've already replaced those and got no joy. Any info greatly appreciated!
#1784 of 2083 Re: 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan-catalytic converter? [mako511]
Jun 26, 2009 (1:06 pm)
P0016 Dodge Crankshaft Position - Camshaft Position Correlation - Bank 1 Sensor A
#1785 of 2083 Re: 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan-catalytic converter? [mako511]
Jun 29, 2009 (7:54 am)
the P016 error with missing above 3500 rpm is the crankshaft flex plate (flywheel) that is cracked and the crankshaft position sensor is back there getting information from the flex plate. My leasing company had the dealer replace the cam and crank position sensors first with no fix. Pulling the transmission and replacing the flex plate (flywheel) fixed the problem.