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Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Plymouth Voyager, Chrysler Grand Voyager, Dodge Grand Caravan, Transmission, Van
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#138 of 2083 Does this make sense?
Feb 18, 2002 (2:07 pm)
"Sorry, but for all the anecdotes quoted by Carleton1, the odds still favor Toyota and Honda by a wide margin. You're far less likely to end up with a sluge-prone Toyota engine in a Sienna, than you are to end up with a flimsy transmission in a 96-2000 Chrysler Group minivan. "
Yea, that makes alot of sense, eneth. Thats why our 1998 Grand Caravan SE went to 70k miles without any problems whatsoever and our current 2000 Town & Country continues to preform flawlessly with over 36k miles on the odometer...
#140 of 2083 Toyota........
Feb 18, 2002 (4:36 pm)
won't admit there is a design flaw in their Sienna's engine(engine temp too high, causing oil to break down). The Toyota Motor group has lost my respect. They treat their customers with contempt, plain and simple. At least DC fixes their vans and admits when there wrong.
I test drove a 2001 Grand Caravan and was very impressed with the ride, the quietest van on the road, and IMO the best looking. We went with the MPV, since my Wife wanted a smaller van and the fold down 3rd row. We love our MPV, but would have had no problem purchasing a 2001 Caravan. I would have never considered the Sienna.
#141 of 2083 Nice comparison, Pjd58
Feb 18, 2002 (7:14 pm)
I'm glad to hear you left your test drive of a 2001 Dodge Caravan with a good impression of the ride and handling of DC minivans. We love our 2000 Town & Country LX that currently has 36k miles on it. However, an MPV is a wise choice for someone who wants an even smaller minivan than a reglar wheel base Dodge Caravan or Chrysler Voyager.
Glad to hear you enjoy your MPV!
Feb 19, 2002 (3:08 pm)
Rarely does Chrysler Group admit or fix its problems until it is forced to, either by the NHTSA or by the court of public opinion. They produced how many - six million - minivans with faulty tailgate latches, recalling them only after being forced to? They produced an entire year's worth of faulty A604 transaxles - recalling them only when the publicity became so bad they had no choice - then produced another ten years' worth, doing nothing more than cutting the warranty from 7/70 to 3/36 because the per-unit costs were eating their shareholders' dividends alive.
I've seen only one comment about the possible cause of the Toyota engine oil problems from a single mechanic - maybe that is the issue; maybe not. The problem is nowhere near as widespread as the problems with the Chrysler Group vans - peeling paint (never acknowledged), faulty head gaskets (4-cyl, never acknowledged), faulty transmissions (rarely acknowledged, but widely publicized), fire-prone fuel systems (that took over a year to begin recall repairs).
Toyota's actions aren't commendable either - but if they're not, then Chrysler's actions are contemptible.
If nothing else, at least your odds are better with a Toyota than with anything from Chrysler Group - which doesn't produce a single model of automobile with anywhere near the reliability record of even the worst Toyota model on the road.
Feb 21, 2002 (7:19 pm)
Well, my mom now has 90,000 miles on her '98 grand caravan...no tranny problem. I just traded my 2000 with 75,000 miles, not tranny trouble.
I just picked up my 2002 Grand Sport, the transmission is noticeably smoother. I am looking forward to driving this van!
While it is without doubt that chrysler had terrible caravan transmissions in the past (my mom had 2 bad ones), I really think they have improved dramatically.
#144 of 2083 More updates...
Feb 22, 2002 (7:54 am)
We have a '96 T&C that has had its' fair share of problems and I have posted about them before. Our tranny went out at 59,xxx miles. I took it to a transmission shop I had used in the past. They told me to contact Chrysler directly because Chrysler had been covering the cost of the repairs due to high failure rate. I had no problem, Chrysler opened a file on us and then paid for 1/2 of the repair done at our dealer. We now have 88,xxx miles on the van and the a/c evaporator needs to be replaced. That brings the total cost of repairs on the van to $4,400 since ownership. And yes, this van gets regular service, most at our dealer. However, the van is paid for and it is cheaper to repair rather than replace, for now.
These tranny problems seem to be hit and miss. Carleton is correct, some last forever and others go early.
Try meeting and talking to people outside these boards who have direct experience. Our Chrysler dealership has been top-notch. Their Service Manager is a great guy and has been a real joy to know. He says the same thing. Some of the 4 sp. trannys go forever and some just blow early. They have a full time mechanic that does nothing but tranny rebuilds at their dealership.
I also have received the same word from a transmission shop I have used. Some of the 4 sp. trannys go forever but way too many crap out early.
I don't care about Honda or Toyota, that's not what this board is about. How come everytime anyone brings up possible problems with their Chrysler vans the same people jump in saying Honda and Toyota have problems also? That's great to hear but who cares. We are discussing Chrysler. Maybe these tranny problems are universal to mini-vans. Has anyone thought about that. These mini-vans we are discussing are basically a car with a bigger body. People use them to haul heavier cargo than a car and carry more people. Maybe that is the problem. Maybe the manufacturers need heavier duty components in the mini-vans.
#145 of 2083 Failure history
Mar 06, 2002 (12:20 pm)
I would be interested in having owners post just what symptoms their transmissions exhibited before being told they need a rebuild or new transmission. My 96 started slipping in reverse and when I looked into it it was low on fluid due to a loose clamp on the trans cooler at the top of the radiator. I cut 1/2 inch off the hose (rubber) and re connected the line. No more leaking or problems thus far. Could the plethora of supposed problems be due to loosing fluid??
#146 of 2083 reply hayneldan
Mar 06, 2002 (1:20 pm)
You were lucky, if my trans was just leaking I would have gone for an easy fix, too. Mine just got progressively slower to engage reverse until it took about 15 seconds and then the dealer finally issued the death certificate and DC paid for a new one under the old 7/70 warranty.I was never asked about fluid changes or type of fluid used.
#147 of 2083 Fluid was fine...
Mar 07, 2002 (7:56 am)
My tranny fluid level was fine also. I did not have a problem with reverse, my problem was with 1st.
When coming to a stop, my vehicle would hesitate back and forth while trying to drop to 1st gear. It eventually got to the point where I had to physically put the gear selector to low after coming to a stop to force the tranny to 1st gear. Otherwise, we were always taking off in 2nd gear.