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Re: TRANSMISSION SHUDDER??? [amcelmurry] by dssse
May 31, 2007 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: amcelmurry (May 31, 2007 12:10 pm)

Just out of curiosity, what part of the country are you in? I am in NYc. I am bringing my van in next week and am ready for them to tell me that they don't feel anything.
Dan
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Re: TRANSMISSION SHUDDER??? [dssse] by brokenspoke
Jun 07, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: dssse (May 25, 2007 6:44 pm)

dealer replaced seals and low reverse clutch it is a little smother they said there is nothing else wrong and it takes a little time for new style kevlar clutches(new for 2007) to break in. is this BS? i dont know? still waiting for so called kevlar clutches to break in.
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [bill197] by rap16992
Jun 11, 2007 (12:00 am)
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Replying to: bill197 (Oct 15, 2000 12:37 am)

Hello there.
 
I recently suffered through similiar experience and was wondering if you, or anyone reading this, would be willing to provide further information as I am at a lost with my 97 Chrysler T&C.
 
Recently driving my T&C on highway and feel vibrating (around 85 mph) that I initially attributed to poor tire balancing. Reduced speed to under 80, vibrating disappears. Next day on same trip about one hour in, transmission goes out. In R, D, 3, L, NO action.
 
Any words of experience/advice much needed as vehicle currently in local Chrysler shop.
 
HELP!!!
 
Hope to hear from you, anyone, soon.
RAP
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [rap16992] by shipo
Jun 11, 2007 (1:41 am)
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Replying to: rap16992 (Jun 11, 2007 12:00 am)

Transmission Control Module (TCM)? I suppose it's possible.
 
Torque Converter failure? Sounds more likely to me. Unfortunately, usually when the TC fails, it takes the rest of the transmission with it. If your dealership is honest, they'll open it up and let you know for sure.
 
When my TC went last year there was NO DOUBT in my mind that the rest of the transmission was toast given the horrible grinding sounds that issued forth as I tried to nurse our 1998 off the road. Even still, my dealership insisted on opening it up first before ordering a factory remanufactured transmission. Needless to say, as soon as they dropped the pan, they ordered the tranny.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [shipo] by rap16992
Jun 12, 2007 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 11, 2007 1:41 am)

shipo:
 
Very much appreciate your reply. Just to give you more info on where I stand currently. I am in Germany and this happened coming back from a weekend away with my family. You state that there was NO DOUBT in your mind when your's went due to the grinding, I too experienced the grinding especially when I tried to reverse. I have sinced heard back from the Chrysler service shop and they have confirmed that it is the trans and that I need to replace it. As the vehicle is about 4 hours away at another location, I am at their mercy and feel relatively safe that they are telling the truth at least to the best of their ability. The Germans seem to be quite serious when it comes to doing business over here and hopefully that extends to their service shops.
 
What I would like to ask you is what you can provide me in the way of expereicen/advice concerning my options. It is going to cost me $4500 to have this trans replaced. I have spoken to some of my American co-workers here and they stated that I can expect to pay more for the same level of work/service as I would if this were done in the US. They have told me that it comes with a 12 month warranty.
 
What I would like to know is to the best of your ability, if I decide to replace the trans, what is the reasonable expectation of its success and the life-extension of my T&C?
 
Thanks for your guidance.
RAP
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [rap16992] by shipo
Jun 12, 2007 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: rap16992 (Jun 12, 2007 5:58 am)

The transmission on our 1998 3.8 liter DGC went last year at exactly 109,000 miles (literally), and I had several options for replacement. Said options ranged from a checked out unit from a bone yard for $1,200 (plus installation) that included a thirty day warranty through $2,600 (installed) for a Chrysler factory remanufactured unit (with all of the latest engineering revisions for that generation of transmission) that came with a three year or thirty six thousand mile warranty (no other replacement transmission option was even close to that warranty). The good news is that now, fourteen months later that new transmission is still performing perfectly. The bad news is that I only have about 2,000 miles left on the warranty. Yeesh.
 
Regarding your situation, while I have no doubt that you're going to have to pay a premium to get the same transmission, I'm stunned that you're being quoted $4,500 for a transmission that only comes with a 12 month warranty. Yuk! With that in mind, I might be inclined to shop around a bit.
 
Regarding the particular transmission that you are being quoted the $4,500 on, what is its source? Is it rebuilt or remanufactured over in Europe or is it the same unit that I got that has been shipped across the pond?
 
As for extending the life of your van, that was the dilemma that I was faced with last year. "Do I dump $2,600 for a new tranny or do I just trade the sucker in on a new car?" The fact is that our van has looooong since been paid for, and other than the tranny, it has been a model of reliability. So, dumping the money seemed like a good bet given how good the rest of the van was. Would I make the same decision if I was faced with a $4,500 repair? Ummmm, probably. That said, as fuel over here in the U.S. approaches $4.00 per gallon, and given that my company is about to move, forcing me into a 130+ mile per day commute, I might make a different choice today.
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: TRANSMISSION SHUDDER??? [brokenspoke] by tc2007
Jun 12, 2007 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: brokenspoke (Jun 07, 2007 3:19 pm)

Is yours Town and Country 2007? Mine is 3 months old and has a transmission shudder ever since I got it. I went to the dealer 7 times. This morning went there again and a foreman called Chrysler. When the foreman told him that it was a 2007 T & C, a Chrysler rep immediately asked him if it was a trasnmission shudder. Apparently, it's a new material that Chrysler used for 2007 model and it affects a low reverse clutch. The dealer said that they are going to order the special part and this should fix the problem.
 
PS I had my transmission settings changed/downloaded twice and it did not take care of the problem. Hoping for the best with this new part.
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [shipo] by rap16992
Jun 12, 2007 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: shipo (Jun 12, 2007 7:01 am)

shipo:
 
I am actually being charged a rate of 3,353 Euros excluding tax, which I am exempt from paying. What's kicking my behind in this transaction is the piss poor exchange rate. I am getting the trans from local German Chrysler dealership who has quoted that the casing may be reused/remanufactured, whatever the correct terminology may be, but that all the parts inside are new Chrysler parts. They stated it was 12 month warranty. Should I seek additional assistance from Chrysler direct in USA regarding more warranty? Is it possible for me to order directly a trans?
 
As I have never experienced a trans blow-out, I am not really sure what I am dealing with. As I read some of the stuff in this string, I am somewhat confused. I do know for a fact that as I was traveling down the German autobahn at around 80-85 mph, the van started to shake and shudder, not violently though, and the trans felt as it disengaged and pressing the gas pedal only acted as the van was in neutral. I finally coasted to a stop and when trying reverse heard the grinding high pitch noise. I assume it is shot. Any thoughts on that?
 
As for extending the life of my van, I share the same dilemma that you faced with yours. Our van too has looooong since been paid off, and other than the trans, it has been a model of reliability. That's why it is so tough to make the decision although I am seriously leaning to fixing it. If it weren't for the sad exchange rate it would be more even with what you paid in dollars.
 
Appreciate your thoughts.
RAP
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Re: Picking Up Bad Vibrations [rap16992] by shipo
Jun 12, 2007 (1:03 pm)
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Replying to: rap16992 (Jun 12, 2007 10:22 am)

"I am getting the trans from local German Chrysler dealership who has quoted that the casing may be reused/remanufactured, whatever the correct terminology may be, but that all the parts inside are new Chrysler parts."
 
Rebuilt typically means taking a broken unit, tearing it apart and measuring every part. All parts that meet minimum used specs are reused, all parts that don't are replaced with either new aftermarket or used parts, and then the unit is reassembeled.
 
Remanufactured typically means the case is gutted, cleaned and all internal parts are replaced with factory new, and at the latest engineering build level. Essentially a "Factory Reman" is a new unit.
 
Regarding the warranty, I'd press your dealership on that one. As for getting a unit from the U.S., hmmm, I suppose it is possible. I just checked http://www.dodgeparts.com and saw that they have 3.8 liter transmissions for 1998 3.8 liter models for $2,047.50 (for some reason they aren't listing the 1996 and 1997 models although I'm pretty sure they're available).
 
Another alternative is going with a mass rebuilder like Phoenix Rebuilders, they're showing a transmission for a 1997 T&C 3.8 for $1,135 with a 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty. Their unit can be seen at the following link:
 
http://www.phoenixhardparts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=156
 
If you decide to opt for an American unit, I'm sure the freight couldn't be more than a couple of hundred dollars and then you could simply install it yourself or pay your dealer to do the R&R for you. The potential problem here is time. How long can you be without your van?
 
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: TRANSMISSION SHUDDER??? [tc2007] by brokenspoke
Jun 12, 2007 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: tc2007 (Jun 12, 2007 7:38 am)

Yes it is a 2007 about 6 weeks old now, please let me know what part the dealer reoplaces, i was told new clutces are made out of kevler and need time to brake in? i would like to know what the new part is so i can have it replaced.
 
brokenspoke

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