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#8183 of 8223 Re: Mazda MPV. [tcc21]
Nov 14, 2009 (9:59 am)
A few yrs back I saw quite a lot of issues w/rust in almost of the major automobile brands; at least a major portion of it was caused by DEALERS selling aftermarket so-called corrosion prevention systems [ofetn quite a few hundred dollars - cost the dealer very little, like the upholstery "stain prevention" systems & "pinstriping"] not endorsed -or even desired- by the manufacturers; As I rercall, at one point Honda corp was quite unhappy w/problems caused by this; besidess being often truely un-needed, they also often gunked up the drain chanels all companies put in to prevent water accumulation, CAUSING [dirty?, salty w/road salt?] water retention &, in turn, causing the corrosion they were sold to prevent. Certainly other manufacturers also had this issue. On top of that if such were sold a lot in a given town, it would "prove" rust is a problem in that climate w/many brands of cars, giving a "reason" to sell even more harmful "rust protection." something to think about next some slick talking dealer's salesman tries to sell you a car. - Check w/the manufacturer before buying such garbage.
Our 2004 MPV appears to have litle if any rust - the chanel in the bottom of the sliding door opening has a rather silly plastic drain plug w/a tiny flap that is easily stopped up to the point of uselessness - easy to remove, once you find it, [front of the chanel] to stop water accumulating & sloshing there... & we have NO aftermarket so-called "corrosion prevention" system..
#8184 of 8223 What's closest to an MPV now?
Nov 24, 2009 (2:10 pm)
My 2002 MPV has served me well but the miles are high and I'm beginning to look for a replacement. If there were such a thing as a new MPV, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Since there isn't: What the closest thing to an MPV now? I have tried a Kia Rondo, Toyota Highlander; looked at Mazda5. Nothing comes close yet -- especially in hitting the "sweet spot" for size, utility and flat-floor capability with 2nd row seats removed.
#8185 of 8223 Re: What's closest to an MPV now? [bridgewaterguy]
Nov 24, 2009 (4:48 pm)
Well, you may try finding a lightly used 20006 MPV.
#8186 of 8223 Re: What's closest to an MPV now? [jipster]
Nov 24, 2009 (5:29 pm)
Yeah a 2006 MPV is like a newer and improved MPV and I always see nice 2006 MPV's with 30-40k miles for $7-10k.
#8187 of 8223 Re: What's closest to an MPV now? [budmantom]
Nov 24, 2009 (7:06 pm)
My wife really likes our 2004 MPV LX with around 68k miles. We would also look into buying a new one if they were still available. They really are a one of a kind minivan. Excellent quality. I think if Mazda brought it back, currently being sold in Japan, with better mpg, it would be a sales winner.
#8188 of 8223 Another Unique Thing About The MPV
Nov 24, 2009 (8:52 pm)
I have a 2003 MPV and wanted to replace the burned out light in the rear heater/AC control panel in the back area. Found out you cannot replace the bulb in it. You need to BUY A WHOLE NEW ASSEMBLY for $170 - part only!!! Another dumb thing about these great little minivans! I'm not sold on the 'quality' aspect of these. I have 130K miles on mine and there have been some quirky things thru the years; the tranny, the catalytic converter going out, the water problems with a poor design of the coils/spark plug covers, bulb replacement issues - rear license plate - tear door apart to replace! Front suspension total replacement. Etc, Etc. Sorry, I'm not a believer in 'bring back the MPV to USA motto. I had two Dodge Caravans in the 90's and they were similar in quality to this unit overall. Oh yes, the premature rusting of the front door on the bottom and around the rear wheel wells!
#8189 of 8223 Re: Another Unique Thing About The MPV [tcc21]
Nov 25, 2009 (8:12 am)
I have 130K miles
That's a lot of miles for any car. The burned out light in the back area... not really needed. Agree coils were poorly designed... mechanically does have a few problem areas (mostly minor). Overall quality of materials, fit and finish, ride, handling are far above the Dodge Caravan.. and at least equal to that of the Sienna and Ody.
Other than having 2 coils replaced under warranty, our MPV has been problem free (knock on wood). Still on original set of brakes. The good thing about future generations of any car or van is they have a chance to correct those problem areas.
So, bringing the current generation of MPV to the U.S would be a good idea, provided they can increase mpg as noted in previous post.
#8190 of 8223 Re: Another Unique Thing About The MPV [jipster]
Nov 25, 2009 (8:46 am)
I have 133K miles ... drove it cross country at 122K.
The problems I had are not minor - and have been due to 'wear'.
1. Mass Airflow Sensor
- This was frequenty misdiagnosed by many technicians as O2 sensor, coils, tranny etc. My friend's Sienna has his MAF frequently cleaned ... but after two cleanings, I finally replaced mine ... and the car runs like new again.
2. Control Fan PCU assembly
- There was a recall on this which I did avail of. So the lifespan of my control fan PCU is really only 70K ... which is on the low side but still attributable to the regular lifespan of an electronic pcu.
- Now the car runs very quietly ... no more of the engine fan turning on/off which was quite noisy.
BTW - 1 and 2 were replaced at 115K and 126K miles.
Other than that - the rest were the regular maintenance issues.
- Brakes - will have them replaced this week
- Shocks and struts - will probably need one soon
- Car battery
- Spark plugs - replaced at
I do use Mobil1 and do follow a 6,000-7,5000 mile interval.
#8191 of 8223 Re: Another Unique Thing About The MPV [jipster]
Nov 25, 2009 (4:30 pm)
Thanks for the reply. However, I don't think 130K miles is a lot of miles on any car these days. I have many friends who think that it's in mid life at this point. Most are going for 200K miles. I guess I don't have friends who can replace cars every couple years like I use to. Kids in college, etc. Anyway; I do think it's nuts that you need to replace the whole assembly to have the control panel lit. My passengers in back can't find the controls during our long dark MN. winters! The Tranny issues, CATALYTIC CONVERTER REPLACEMENT? (minor?) are not reasonable issues. That coil design is not a cheap fix either and I hold my breath during every rain storm I drive in for it to happen again! 2003 was the 4th year of this unit and should have had some refinement by then. True the 2002 was the first year of the slightly revised model - new engine, front/back cosmetics and tranny.....but still! Don't get me wrong, the styling was why I bought the unit NEW over Toyota and Honda - plus it was $3K cheaper too. Maybe this is why? I'm hoping to get to 190K if possible. My Camry's - two of - had flipped the 200 mark and were good to go before I sold them.
#8192 of 8223 Re: Another Unique Thing About The MPV [tcc21]
Nov 25, 2009 (7:01 pm)
One more thing; the rust. My MPV showed signs of rust on the passenger lower lip within the first 24 months! Mazda did cover it with a lot of groaning at that time. They said that I would be on my own thereafter. Now, I may be picky, but rust on today's cars is becoming a very seldom thing. To have a virtually new car have the rust issues around those terrible joints in the metal and around the rear wheel wells is not right! I see many other MPV's from the 2000-2003 era here in MN. with rust in that wheel area. Sad method they used to wrap the metal in the lip of the well.
Oh yes - one more item I've had - the rear heating coolant tubes that rusted totally away!! Mazda did cover their replacement but what the heck! When we pulled the liner out of the rear well we did not see ANYTHING there - the tubing was all gone! What are they thinking? I was losing coolant out the back for a while before I saw this item as a recall!