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Re: Ignition coil fouled when it rains... [tcc21] by jipster
Aug 02, 2009 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: tcc21 (Aug 01, 2009 2:47 pm)

The front coils (#4,5,6) are easy to remove, shouldn't take 10 minutes. You could do it yourself for the price of a $69 coil bought online. The $200 price you speak of probably includes the dealerships diagnostic fee of $99.
 
First coil of mine went out in a torrential downpour, the second... not sure... may not have been raining.
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Re: Ignition coil fouled when it rains... [jipster] by budmantom
Aug 03, 2009 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: jipster (Aug 02, 2009 1:16 pm)

You can also purchase the coil packs on ebay for $120-185 shipped depending on the manufacturer and both have received good reviews on the MPV forum, they also have a great article on how to do-it-yourself.
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Re: Key - Ignition problem [tcc21] by aa0526
Aug 03, 2009 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: tcc21 (Jul 30, 2009 9:53 pm)

I HAD the same exact symptoms on my 2002 Mazda MPV back at 112K miles.
I brought it to two different mechanics.
The problem with OBDII codes is --- they don't really describe the root cause. They describe the problem / general area... which is a good starting point.
But it is up to the mechanic to further do investigations.
 
Anyway - the first mechanic replaced all the plugs, did a change oil etc ... and cleared the codes. The codes did disappear ... only to reappear after 9K miles.
 
The second mechanic CLEANED the MAF sensor --- the codes disappeared.
After 5K, the codes came back - I CLEANED the MAF sensor on my own (with instructions from the mechanic), the codes disappeared. He did tell me that if it appeared one more time, it was time to REPLACE the MAF sensor ... which I did 6 months later.
 
The CEL came back again ... but it was for the leak in the PCV valve.
 
The CEL come back ON/OFF when I drove at high altitude during a snow storm. It has disappeared and has never come back on again.
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Re: Key - Ignition problem [mcadrecha] by steve54a
Aug 12, 2009 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: mcadrecha (Jul 30, 2009 8:51 pm)

I experienced a similar problem a few years ago with my 2000 MPV. In my case it was an interlock that interfaces with the ignition switch. In my case the switch would go to the off-lock position if i disconnected the battery. I also note that there is a small cap on the plastic steering column cover above the ignition switch. Te cap should pop out and this should provide access to release the interlock manually and then you should be able to turn off the key. I believe the repair cost was ~$150 at the dealer. Although they originally tried to sell me an ignition switch, they eventually did the honorable thing and just replaced the interlock.
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Re: Ignition coil fouled when it rains... [jdelg] by buzzk
Oct 11, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: jdelg (Aug 01, 2009 12:10 pm)

we had the same problem w/our 2004 MPV; code reader [98 bucks from chain discount store - well worth it!] said it was #1 cylinder [most exposed to rain]; I pulled it, as it can be easily reached, & in my judgement the design was blisteringly stupid; it had a VENT hole, for cryin' out loud!! that is SILLY! - lets rain vapors get in there & short out the spark. I've worked on other, similar systems o&o over the years & they ALWAYS sealed the spark plug well against moisture; I cleaned it & plugged it w/silcone,which stopped the problem. then I got a complete set of new coils off e-bay [cheap] which seal around the raised lip at the top of the plug well in the normal, rational, manner & have not had the problem return. [we love the car but have other problems at this time - will ask abt them in a different blog]. Get new coils which are configured to cover, & seal, the raised lip at the top of each spark plug well. they're a pain to install due have to remove intake manifold, but,w/patience, easily done. it's worth it.
 
Cheers, BK
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Re: Ignition coil fouled when it rains... [buzzk] by tcc21
Oct 12, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: buzzk (Oct 11, 2009 6:10 pm)

I've blogged on here in the past too about this issue. Everytime I drive my 2003 in a heavy rain or it sits out in a heavy rain, it has the stumble problem as your's had.
I too went to a local garage and the replacement would be around $200 plus or minus a few with labor. It is the one in front that has the issue on mine. Sounds like you dug right in and got them all fixed with a better method too. It is just nuts that they had this design on all these MPV's! Common sense was not in their vocabulary among some other things on this vehicle!
Like trying to change the rear license plate lights, or the headlight on the drivers side or other marker lights in front. Why can you not override the auto dimmer of the inside lights to keep them on?? They turn off after 3 minutes and then you have to shut all the doors and open again to start the time cycle over again - bizarre!
And a kicker one - up thru 2003 - no auto door lock/unlock button on the passenger door! I've had power locks for 25 years and have always had a button on the passenger door as well as the drivers door in my Chrylser, Chevy, Dodge cars! Ugh!
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Re: who has similar experience and idea how to... [JamesJJ] by jipster
Oct 30, 2009 (5:03 am)
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I bought a brand new 2001 MPV at your dealer Dufferin Mazda. At the same time, the dealer also sold me at $600 a life time rust protection program. During annual check of last year, the dealer found rust on my car and then point me to the provider of the coating product. Eventually, I got a written letter from the provider after their own check, saying no their product had been applied onto my car.
 
The rust protection company was the provider, and they didn't provide the rust protection? They owe you a refund on whatever their take was from the dealership. Sue them in small claims if they do not reimburse you. Permaplate is the party you should go after. Might try calling the BBB as well.
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who has similar experience and idea how to... by JamesJJ
Oct 30, 2009 (7:16 pm)
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I have been deceived by a Mazda dealer for years. I complained the case to Mazda Canada but no response. Second time I started with info request about a book so I built a connection with it, then I asked for help to deal with the dealer. But it quickly turned me off. See the communication between it and me.
 
Did any one have similar experience and an idea how to have the dealer to compensate my loss?
 
The following is the communication between (in a reverse order); and all email addresses and phone numbers are removed according to the policies here.
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Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:28:00 -0700
Hello Mr. Jiang,
 
Upon reviewing your correspondence, it is regrettable to be informed of your negative experiences with Manpreet Moti. We appreciate any feedback our customers have about Mazda dealerships and we do review each concern carefully with the dealership's Management, however, matters between yourself and the dealership must be resolved with the dealership. We can review your feedback internally, but to have a matter addressed, you will need to address it with the dealership. Further, if your concerns are regarding a dealership which no longer exists, then we are unable to review further, as there is no one to review with, nor can there be any improvements made since the dealership is no longer in existance.
 
Should you have any feedback with regards to your current dealings with Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda, we would be pleased to have you share this with us. Our reviews are internal with the dealership and as such, your matters will still need to be addressed directly with the dealership, but we appreciate your feedback.
 
Regards,
Mazda Canada Inc.
 
Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date : Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:08:23 GMT
Dear Mr. Mazda,
 
I can understand your dealerships are not your subsidiary companies. But are there any regulations to regulate their behaviors especially when come to your consumers?
 
I doubt the change of ownership of Dufferin Mazda dealership is just a game to evade its responsibility.
Why does it continuously check my car every year without notice of this change?
They promised they would contact the PermaPlate (provider of antirust coating material) and let PermaPlate send a person to my garage to fix the rust when they found the rust. Later, manager Manpreet Moti always said she would contact their person inside PermaPlate to resolve my case. Every time when I finally reached her, she always said 'busy busy' and promised would call me back very soon, even once said within 15 mins, but she never did even once. She asked me all documents and personal info every time but never gave me any words in written.. Moreover she used to suddenly hang up the line claiming I was recording the talk.
 
She never responded to my messages and emails. She never picked up my call before my several attempt and hours' waiting on line.
 
Do you accept this kind of dealers as your terminal sensors to your customers? Do you acknowledge these fraud and rascal behaviors? Will you still just await there and see how this evolves on?
 
Wish you do somethings to protect your image.
 
James Jiang
 
Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:19:29 -0700
Hello Mr. Jiang,
 
Unfortunately, we are unable to provide information regarding Dufferin Mazda due to privacy regulations and we are unable to forward your concerns to Dufferin Mazda, as we no longer have any ties with them. Further, please note that Mazda dealerships are independently owned and operated.
 
Regards,
Mazda Canada Inc.
 
---- Original Message ----
 
Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date : Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:53:30 GMT
 
Thank you, Sir.
 
Please provide me some info about your dealer Dufferin Mazda, like owner name, phone number or email, so I can contact him or her. Or forward my message to him or her, let him or her contact me.
 
We like this car. We brought life time rust program and life time oil change and maintenance program for the car as well. Please help to solve the case so we could still consider Mazda next choice and recommend to friends.
 
James
 
Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:53:49 -0700
Hello Mr. Jiang,
 
It is regrettable to be informed of your situation with the rust protection. Unfortunately, Mazda Canada does not offer any form of additional rust protection or coverage and would not have any information on this. You would have to review with the rust protection company and the Management at Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda. We recommend your direct contact with the General Manager, Mr. Subhojit Das (people call him Das) at XXX-XXX-XXXX, as he would be in the best position to determine if Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda is able to assist you. We can confirm that Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda is under different ownership and Management than Dufferin Mazda and as such, records belonging to Dufferin Mazda are likely unavailable to Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda.
Regards,
Mazda Canada Inc.
 
---- Original Message ----
 
Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date : Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:26:28 GMT
 
Thank you, sir.
 
I will contact them for the book.
 
Here is another issue. To simplify it is:
 
I brought a brand new 2001 MPV at your dealer Dufferin Mazda. At the same time, the dealer also sold me at $600 a life time rust protection program. During annual check of last year, the dealer found rust on my car and then point me to the provider of the coating product. Eventually, I got a written letter from the provider after their own check, saying no their product had been applied onto my car.
 
Now the dealer says that the owner changed and cannot find any records about the application of the product, and refuses to issue any paper as required by the provider, neither do anything to fix the rust.
 
Right now, the dealer has a new name Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda. The others are same.
 
Can you tell me what should I do and what can you do?
 
James Jiang
 
Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:05:35 -0700
 
Hello Mr. Jiang,
 
To locate your nearest Mazda dealership, please visit: http://mazda.ca/eng/dealers/dealerlocator.asp. Based on the provided postal code, your nearest dealership is Scarboro Mazda. Speak to the Parts Department.
  
Regards,
Mazda Canada Inc.
 
---- Original Message ----
Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
Date : Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:56:43 GMT
 
Hello Sir,
 
I have attempted several places but nothing found. I am living at M2J (postal code). Can you tell me where (Address and phone number) I can purchase it for my 2001 MPV LX ?
 
Thank you.
 
James Jiang
 
Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385
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Re: My 04 MPV - Great car but... [sm00ve] by buzzk
Nov 14, 2009 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: sm00ve (Jun 06, 2009 6:18 pm)

we got a full factory shop manual from Mazda when we bought the car. Unlike manuals for our Toyota or our Subaru, the price was reasonable [I think it was abt $100.00 + or - & it's one large book]. VERY detailed, tho occasionally the trouble-shooting sections are not very realistic... but, IMHO [do most of my own work] WELL worth having...
 
BTW so far the shift problem was fixed adequately by a software flash done for free by the dealer [after we found out abt it from a private owner - Mazda NEVER notified us!!!!] & the throttle position sensor cut out the engine but didn't give a code on either of my code readers [check engine light stayed OFF] had to use old fashioned reasoning & experimenting to get the hint it was the problem. The truely idiotic spark coil seals, that allow water in the plug well & short out the spark, were replaced by reasonable priced coils I got from ebay that have a [heaven forbid!] normal, rational, effective seal that prevents water entry.. the factory system is so utterly idiotic it beggars the mind.. they actually designed in a VENT!! which, of course allows water & particularly atomized water or steam from hot engine in rainstorm to enter & trash the spark [see my other posts] I'd advise NEVER use OEM coils unless they've improved the design. In any case, good luck!
 
Cheers, BK

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