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Re: MPV [jipster]
by linda424
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Jun 10, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 02, 2009 7:54 am)
I just took our 2002 mpv into the dealer to get checked out because we had a loud noise near the catalytic converter...it was the flex exhaust pipe.The dealer put it on the "scope" to check for any other problems...he said there was none. 3 days later the van was running horrible..bouncing and erratic rpms...we had the exhaust hose replaced...much quieter but now engine light is on and it seems to have some sort of misfire....when the rpms get really low the breaks seem to harden and its hard to stop unless you go to the floor with the pedal. Shouldn't the dealer have noticed the brakes....they did have the tires off when we went to pick it up...not sure why, if there is a brake problem. Is it still safe to drive with the engine light flashing on and off until I can get back to the dealer? Van was fine until we got to the dealer...
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- #8160 of 8192
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Re: Updates... [jipster]
by aa0526
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Jun 29, 2009 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 01, 2009 7:46 am)
We bought ours NEW in July 2002.
We have the 3.0 v6.
Here is a list of things that have been repaired the last 7 years.
1. IAC valve - replaced part of TSB recall 2005
2. IAC valve - replaced again in 12/2008 after CEL came on.
3. Mass Air Flow sensor - cleaned in 5/2008 after CEL came on
4. Mass Air Flow sensor - replaced in 10/2008 after CEL came on
Other than that - there's been no problems.
BTW - the hardest part is diagnosing these things ---- some mechanics just make guesses ... others are more knowledgeable than others. I used an independent mechanic for items 2 -4. I had to 'help' them understand the problem by giving a detailed history and telling them what I have heard from this board. True enough ---- I was right!
He initially wanted to replace either the O2 sensors or the coils.
Right now - my MPV is in the shop ---- the fan is not working causing the engine to overheat. But after 124K miles --- and a cross country trip thru 100+ degree weather and wintry blizzards - it is difficult to complain.
I do change my oil every 6-8K and use synthetic or semi-synthetic.
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- #8161 of 8192
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Re: MPV [linda424]
by aa0526
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Jun 29, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: linda424 (Jun 10, 2009 9:24 am)
What were the engine codes for the CEL?
My past engine codes have been PO171 and PO173.
I've had a few more ... but previous experience has been the following:
1. IAC or EGR valve
2. Mass Air Flow sensor
The EGR valve leak produces very rough idling - if not jerky driving.
The Mass Air Flow Sensor problem (usually either very dirty or worn out) - results in poor acceleration and low HP especially from 3rd gear to 4th and 5th and poor mileage.
Most mechanics will blame the O2 sensor or any of the coils. They can charge a lot for the labor for these ... so be aware. Read the codes... read the codes ... and research them carefully ... some mechanics are just as naive about these codes as any layperson --- yes, even the newbie mechanics at the dealerships!
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- #8162 of 8192
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Re: MPV [aa0526]
by aa0526
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Jun 29, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: aa0526 (Jun 29, 2009 7:12 pm)
BTW .. just got back from the mechanic ...
My two fans are not working ... something due to the wiring.
If the two fans are connected directly - they run perfectly fine.
The fuses are OK.
I will bring the van to an electrical shop.
I had them check the brakes ... after 124K, the brakes are still at 50% !!!
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- #8163 of 8192
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Re: Updates... [jipster]
by rgb2
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Jul 21, 2009 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (May 01, 2009 7:46 am)
I bought 04 ES in Jan 05. Loved it last month. Took it in for last oil change and inspection before warranty expired in Dec 08. The "full circle" inspection said everything OK. Then in May I noticed oil stains on the driveway. It's due for an oil change anyway, so I take it to the dealer - and get the "leaking oil pan" and $500 quote to replace it. Since the car has 46K miles only and been regularly maintained at the dealer, I complain. The dealer says will get back to me, and a couple a days later call and says that Mazda will cover 50% of labor and new gasket, but not new oil pan. Take to another shop to double check - they say the front crank seal is also leaking. Go back to dealer, after some haggling he agrees there are 2 leaks. So after a lot of wasted time, energy, and $250 I got a couple of new gaskets and a shaken belief in Mazda reliability and dealer expertise. Still love the MPV but having second thoughts about keeping it for 10 years as I originally planned.
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- #8164 of 8192
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Re: Updates... [rgb2]
by jipster
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Jul 21, 2009 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: rgb2 (Jul 21, 2009 6:24 pm)
Mazda replaced a ignition coil that was under mileage warranty, but a few months over the 48 month warranty, without a hassle. The oil pan problems seems as if it is becoming more prominent lately. We've got a little over 5 years on our MPV... hoping to get 10.
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- #8165 of 8192
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Re: Updates... [rgb2]
by tcc21
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Jul 21, 2009 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: rgb2 (Jul 21, 2009 6:24 pm)
I had my oil pan gasket replaced for 360 at a local garage I trust. The problem is that the gasket is a METAL one that get's warped and causes the leaking. You can't tighten it since it is warped. Poor design to start with -dah! You'd think that engineers would learn?? Anyway, my new gasket is a different material that conforms to the pan and will not warp under heat. I had a bad leak too and had a mess on my garage floor and the undercarriage area. Good luck! These MPV's are nice when they are working but have many little bugs waiting to bite!
I have 124K miles on my 2003 - I am the original owner and have gone thru all the fixes thru the years. I do change oil every 3K miles too.
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Re: Updates... [rgb2]
by lg2207
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Jul 23, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: rgb2 (Jul 21, 2009 6:24 pm)
I would've taken the offer for 50% from Mazda since your out of warranty (IMO)-- to save the headaches of running around- anyway our '02 with 57,000 which is serviced regularly by an independent shop recently had to have the plan replaced- as one member indicated the pan and the gaskets wore out. We needed the new kit which had updated gaskets recommended for this vehicle. It cost us $435 in between the $360 the other member mentioned and the $500 quoted by the dealer. I hear you on Mazda reliability- we have an '07 6S Wagon that has had numerous problems (way more than anything we've had over the past 7 years on the MPV)
Take Care
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Key - Ignition problem
by mcadrecha
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Jul 30, 2009 (8:51 pm)
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Tonight, after returning home and parking the car in the garage, when I turned off my engine, I could not remove the key from the steering column. I can't get the key to rotate all the way back to the off position (it stays on the accessory position). Has anyone ever had this happen before??
Thanks,
Michael
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Key - Ignition problem
by mcadrecha
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Jul 30, 2009 (8:52 pm)
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Oops, forgot to say I have a 2002 Mazda MPV.
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