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Mazda MPV, Van
Mar 08, 2008 (5:47 am)
Just traded in my 2000 MPV.(LX in Sapphire Blue Mica w/188,000 miles) Thought I'd summarize my 8 years with this vehicle. First, the good: The "right size" vehicle for my family. Liked the styling, color, the way it handled, the cargo room, fold-down rear seat, sliding second row seat. As the mileage indicates, we are a "one car family" and I tend to drive vehicles until they die. Before I get to the "bad" let me say that this van NEVER broke down and left us stranded by the side of the road.
Now the bad: Underpowered w/too busy transmission. A lot of things went bad in 8 years.(most out of warranty of course) Here's a partial list: IAC valve, replaced all 3 catalytic converters, intake manifold gasket (twice), driver's side power window, coil pack, water pump, front axil bearing, radiator, all the O2 sensors (twice), EGR (twice). The last couple of years, there was always a check engine light lit on this van. To be fair to Mazda, if you put this kind of mileage on a vehicle , a lot of these repairs will have to be made, but I put a lot of money in this van and I was not happy with my experience with Mazda dealers and repair (way too long to explain here).
Why?, Well even with the mechanical problems we liked the van, and I subscribe to the concept that you compare yearly repair costs against a new car payment and go with the lower annual cost. This year the numbers finally flipped. (not to mention the aggravation of sitting in repair shop waiting rooms)
Finally, I did not buy another Mazda and probably never will. Their new vehicles are probably just fine, but the last few years have soured me on the company.
I've tried not to make this post a rant, but just a series of closing remarks on this vehicle.
Comments?, Other's experiences?
#8094 of 8223 Re: My MPV [dm126]
Mar 08, 2008 (5:57 am)
I bought a 2002 MPV LX two years ago with 44,000 miles on it, now it has 67,000. I bought it for much the same reason you did: just the right size, good handling for a van, fold-down rear seat. And it was in perfect condition, well cared for by its first owner. I bought a bumper-to-bumper, 0 deductible warranty with the van that will cover it for my five years of ownership. I've used the warranty twice so far: some new coils (seems to be a common problem on the MPV), and a fuel sending unit (not a big problem, but the fuel gauge was not reading completely full with a full tank). I've also had the front brake pads replaced and the 60k service done, which are normal maintenance. Overall I am satisfied with the van, and very satisfied with the dealer where I have it serviced, but am glad I got the warranty in case the transmission gremlins or other problems appear in the next 3 years.
#8095 of 8223 Re: My MPV [dm126]
Mar 08, 2008 (6:37 am)
Great information! (You and others on this thread)
I have a 2003 that I bought new and have had some of the same issues you mentioned.
1 - Tell me about the Drivers Side power Window? I have an issue with it going up REAL slow in colder weather. Although we looked at several other newer models that had the same problem.
2 - Tell me about the COIL issue? I have not had mine replaced at 98K miles. Is this a warranty item - I have 2K left on my extended warranty! What happens when it goes?
3- Tell me about the front axle bearing? I've had my front rack replaced due to squeaking noises when turning the steering wheel. I also have a CREAK sound when going over speed bumps. They say that is normal - I know I know!
4- Catalytic Converter? Tell me more. I've never replaced one in any of my vehicles and I drive them for 170K usually. What happens when it is time for this to be replaced?
5- Gas Gauge not reading full when filled up! Was that under warranty? Did they need to replace a sensor for that?
Thank you for replies!
Please reply - Mine has a different engine than yours, so it's not SO underpowered.
#8096 of 8223 Re: My MPV [tcc21]
Mar 08, 2008 (7:18 am)
OK, Let's see:
1. Driver's side power window(approx. 80, 000 mi.) - It started raising slower & slower over a period of several weeks and finally, one day it wouldn't raise again. Took it to dealer and was told entire assembly including motor had to be replaced. Cost: Approx $800
2. Coil issue(approx. 100, 000 mi.) - Van had a "hard code" (flashing check engine light) and was idling rough (shuddering). Took to my mechanic and he diagnosed cylinder misfire. Replaced plugs/wires, did not solve problem. Replaced coil pack - solved problem. Cost : I believe $300-$400 Note: I don't have my maint. records anymore, so I'm trying to recall from memory.
3. Front Axil Bearing (approx. 140,000 mi.) - Van developed a "wobble" in the front end. Mechanic originally thought right side front wheel bearings were bad, but on inspection found that the front axil bearing was shot. It apparently has rubber "bushings" that deteriorate over time and allow the bearing to slide. Cost: I believe $400 -$500.
4. Catalytic Converter(approx. 90,000 mi.) - This was a "biggie" Van developed flashing check engine light. Took to dealer who diagnosed blown intake manifold gasket. After replacing gasket - $800 - $900, Dealer told me that the converters were fouled and needed replacing. In addition I was informed that the van had "California Emissions" and the converters had to be ordered from Mazda (took a week & a half). Cost: $2200.
5. Gas Gauge - Never had this problem, but would have gladly traded it for one of the above, LOL.
#8097 of 8223 Re: My MPV [dm126]
Mar 08, 2008 (8:12 am)
Thanks for the summary on your MPV. What did you trade in for?
#8098 of 8223 Re: My MPV [tcc21]
Mar 08, 2008 (8:16 am)
Gas Gauge not reading full when filled up
I noticed recently our fuel guage needle was very slow (2-3 minutes) in going from a quarter tank of gas to full... when filling up. Hope this isn't an indication something is going wrong. I've never noticed it to be that slow before... usually turn the key and the needle climbs slowly and steadily to the full mark???
#8099 of 8223 Re: My MPV [jipster]
Mar 08, 2008 (8:38 am)
Traded in for a 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe SE FWD. We decided we no longer needed a minivan and I wanted to try a different type of vehicle. The dealer gave me $500 for the MPV. I took the van to a Mazda dealer a couple of weeks before the trade to find out what it would cost to keep the vehicle. In order to pass VA. emissions it would have cost approx. $1200 to replace o2, mass air, & crank sensors. CarMax offered me $450 for it and I didn't want to repair it and sell it myself, so I was content to take the $500 trade-in.
Funny, as much as I wanted to get rid of the MPV, I still felt a bit sad watching the Hyundai folks take it away. We do get attached to our cars, especially if we keep them for long periods of time.
#8100 of 8223 Re: My MPV [jipster]
Mar 08, 2008 (1:31 pm)
That looks familiar. It could be the fuel sending unit. An additional symptom on my van was that the needle never got higher than 9/10s full even with a full tank. And it took awhile to get to 9/10s.
#8101 of 8223 The BIG Four OHHH !!!
Mar 22, 2008 (5:47 pm)
Our 2004 MPV LX hit 40,000 miles today. We have about 3 months of factory warranty left on it. Thus far we have been very happy with the van, couldn't ask for more. Reliable (knock on wood), sporty looking and a nice handling minivan. Did a trans. flush at around 24k, coolant flush at 35k, oil changes every 3 or 4k. Wiper blades still OEM and working great. Switched out the crappy OEM Dunlops tires for some Goodyear Tripletreds in October, a much better tire... superior in everything but quietness.