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Re: '03 MPV [subearu] by lasinc
Feb 06, 2008 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: subearu (Feb 04, 2008 1:54 pm)

Hi Brian,
 
I really do appreciate all of your advice. I want to end this discussion with one statement. My husband and I are extremely intelligent people. We have been towing for a very long time. Give us some credit for knowing what we are doing. Also, you are going purely on speculation. You know nothing about Brenderup horse trailers. There are many variables in determining how well a vehicle is going to perform while towing. There are ways of retrofitting a vehicle with certain safety features that increase the amount it can tow. The specs on the trailer being towed also have to be considered. Again, we have done our homework and we have made any necessary changes to my MPV.
 
Oh and yes, the car, trailer and even the horses are insured. Mazda wouldn't cover my MPV anyway, it's over it's warranty as I've been driving it for 5 years.
 
Leslie
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Re: '03 MPV [lasinc] by danandkat
Feb 06, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: lasinc (Feb 06, 2008 7:05 am)

The trailer weight exceeds the maximum recommended towing weight by nearly 50%. The trailer weighs more than the curb weight of the van if I recall correctly. The phrase "tail wagging the dog" comes to mind here.
 
Stuff like that makes me nervous. Under ideal conditions it may work out just fine. But in the non-ideal real world something may happen (rain slick roads; need to make a sudden lane change; need to accelerate quickly out of trouble; any one of a thousand other scenarios) you may find things not working out as well as you thought they would.
 
You are right that there are always risks when pulling a trailer, but my preference would be to try to minimize those risks.
 
Well, I hope it works out for you and you have many years of happy towing and horse showing.
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towing by lavrishevo
Feb 06, 2008 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: danandkat (Feb 06, 2008 5:28 pm)

You may not be breaking anyway laws by towing way over the rated limit of but you sure as hell become negligent by knowingly doing it. You also would not be covered by your insurance in case of an accident by violating their policy. God knows I would not want you on the road next to me pulling a trailer way to heavy for a MPV. Don't believe me? Call your insurance company up and tell them you are towing way over the rated limit and see what they have to say....
 
"My husband and I are extremely intelligent people" - so intelligent that you put others at risk towing without insurance coverage by violating the insurance companies policy? Your trailer might be the best thing since sliced bread but you are an idiot to risk the lives of others and yourself pulling that much weight on a MPV. Real smart move to become personally liable for knowingly exceeding the vehicles limits and opening yourself to be sued especially without coverage even if it was not your fault. Seems to me "extremely intelligent" would know this already...
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Re: '03 MPV [lasinc] by subearu
Feb 06, 2008 (8:18 pm)
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Replying to: lasinc (Feb 06, 2008 7:05 am)

You're right, I don't know much about the Brenderup trailer, though I admire the safety features it has. I had a 22' ski boat with a dual axle trailer that had surge brakes, they work well.
 
However, weight is weight, 4400 lbs is greater than 3000 lbs, no matter the size, shape, circumference, moon phase, or how well the trailer does actually perform. You're subjecting the engine, tranny, and chassis to extra duty it was not designed for. You're exceding a limit knowingly, in the end that is never smart.
 
You've posted on a public forum where opinions and replies are commonplace. If you didn't want those, you shouldn't have posted here.
 
-Brian
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Re: towing [lavrishevo] by lasinc
Feb 08, 2008 (11:27 am)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Feb 06, 2008 8:10 pm)

"so intelligent that you put others at risk towing without insurance coverage by violating the insurance companies policy?" Oh so you know what insurance I have and that I am violating my companies policy? Who are you to make such a statement?
 
"You are an idiot" EXCUSE ME?? You really have alot of nerve saying such a thing. I am not going to defend myself to the likes of someone like you.
 
I will no longer be posting.
 
Leslie
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Re: towing [lasinc] by lavrishevo
Feb 09, 2008 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: lasinc (Feb 08, 2008 11:27 am)

Leslie,
 
You can not defend yourself because there is no defense. Just call your insurance company and ask them and you will find the truth. Just don't leave out the stated tow weight limit and the weight of the trailer you wish to tow.
 
My wife worked for one of the largest insurers in the world for many years in risk management and now teaches insurance and risk management as a professor PhD. I know insurance and you clearly have no idea how insurance companies will deny claims for violations. The weight limit on vehicles are there more so for legal reason not always the ability of the vehicle to tow certain weight. Of course the vehicles ability is taken into account as well.
 
It is idiotic to put yourself and others at risk; if you choose to do so then yes you are an idiot. But no need to reply to the likes of me... I just wanted to rebuke your inability to consider the repercussions of your actions. Again don't take my word for it just pick up that phone and call you insurance company and ask and you will understand what I am saying.
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Re: towing [lavrishevo] by lasinc
Feb 09, 2008 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Feb 09, 2008 12:06 pm)

Ok let's leave it at this. You don't know me and I don't know you. Yes, I posted to a public forum and you have the right to give me your opinion. What you don't have the right to do is call me an idiot and question my ability to make responsible decisions. You don't know all of the facts. The only information that you have to go by is what little information I have posted. I have already stated that we have contacted our insurance company. They know what we are towing and what we are towing with. Not only is it necessary to state this information but they needed to know that we are hauling live stock. In order to do this we have to have a rider/special coverage. I also stated before that we have been in contact many times with the horse trailer mfg. and Mazda. I also stated that we have done months of research. This wasn't a fly by night decision! So get a grip and stop being so self righteous.
 
 
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Re: towing [lasinc] by lavrishevo
Feb 10, 2008 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: lasinc (Feb 09, 2008 8:28 pm)

Leslie,
 
Do you even know what self righteous means? Good lord woman you are all over the place. Typical emotional responses. If you were able to put a rider into your policy towing way over the limit and they accepted this then good. At least you are covered. As far as you guys pulling this much weight in a MPV myself and others feel this is idiotic and you have a right to act this way if you wish. We shall lay this to rest and let you pull your livestock in peace. Just please stay out of the Atlanta area I would prefer you not to on the roads next to my family...
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Hey gang... by KarenS HOST
Feb 11, 2008 (12:38 pm)
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...regardless of whether you believe another member's actions are unwise, please refrain from name-calling and personal assessments of their intelligence.
 
Thanks for your future cooperation.
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Re: towing [lasinc] by camarillobrill
Feb 17, 2008 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: lasinc (Feb 09, 2008 8:28 pm)

these last few posts made my evening......, thanks for the entertainment!
As a mazda tech of 21 years, I can think of several reasons why pulling a 4klb trailer with ANY mazda mpv is unwise, but did you ever ONCE consider the horse's feelings?

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